Are <5.0 main villain> fanboys also supportive of <6.1-6.5 main villain>? *SPOILERS*

[Cleretic]

So why would pointing out Venat killed millions if not billions of people be upsetting? She did. There is even a cool cinematic of it with a power ballad playing in the background. And while Shadowbringers did introduce the complicated and messy situation of if someone taking something from you and it's held by that group for generations, is it still acceptable to use violence to take it back. But comparing what Venat did to that scenario was never meant to be inflammatory, it is actually a massive downplay of what she did. She didn't just take their land. No, she took their world, their lives, their history, their bodies, their language, their sanity, even their very souls. Real people can't take from one another the amount Venat took from the Ancients due to a lack of magic power.

So, imagine how this sort of talk feels to people who took the viewpoint of 'both sides faced difficult choices and there is no clear moral right answer, but I personally feel that I would side with Venat'. This isn't incorrect by what the game puts forward, and in fact is a broadly very popular take outside of these forums; it's hard to say if it's a majority, but it's certainly very popular and there's very little in the way of vicious argument about it, and Venat's routinely in the upper echelons of character popularity polls during Endwalker. You might realize, that sort of crowd isn't especially happy to hear these things, especially given we've been hearing them fairly constantly for the past two years.

Now, imagine how it feels to not just have that sort of view of 'in this difficult hypothetical, I would side with Venat', but also have the feeling of 'I would prefer to move on and talk about any other part of the game'. There's a lot of other parts of the game, after all! Venat is actually only a small part, and speaking personally, isn't even a part I especially enjoy; I find all of Elpis fairly dull. I'd prefer if we were instead talking about Thavnair, or the Thirteenth, or primals, or that new expansion we're getting more info about this weekend. And yet, it keeps getting relitigated, by people who at best aren't very nice about it, and at worst are actively looking to start a fight or derail ongoing conversation.

Now, with all that in mind, look at your post history the past day or so.

I think you'll understand why we aren't especially warm to the subject.