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  1. #31
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    Rithris Amaya
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    A lot of the frustration around healer glamour could be absolved if we could see role restrictions removed from the glamour system, i.e. being able to glamour a striking or fending piece to a healing piece and wear that. I know there'd still be a desire to see more gear intended for healers that isn't always 50 shades of nun, but there's no reason to gatekeep glamour options just because that piece can't normally be worn by a job. It has no influence on stats.
    Agreed, I have similar frustrations with glamming Paladin, I think a lot of the melee (a lot maiming that remove shoulder pads ect), gear just looks better, I want my character to wear armor but at the same time a lot of tank gear is just big shoulder pads that look yikes. Theirs not a lot of tank glams that fill the niche of looking tank like but not awful massive shoulder pads gear, especially just looks odd on my character personally. as I'd like more light weight Armor, which a lot of melee's already get :/

    I mean if I can tank in some casual glam I don't see issues with a Tank wearing something more lighter on armor or a Healer wearing something with more Armor ect. I think being able to mix and match some gear sets would also in general just improve glam options. I've even seen crafter and gatherer sets that would look nice for a certain class, but that's never gonna be used for combat either.

    More freedom in glam is only a positive, we've already passed the bridge of what looks "realistic" for a tank, healer, caster ect. So theirs zero reason why you shouldn't be able to just use glams that aren't made for your role type, I wonder why the current glam system is still very restricting honestly, I'm already very picky when it comes to glams I try to make them make sense in the world but theirs already enough issues with tail/hair clipping this restricted system just makes it even more frustrating for me.
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    Last edited by Rithy255; 12-17-2023 at 10:08 AM.

  2. #32
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    I am also into this. I may be biased towards SCH but the Academic's set is looking good, minus the ribbons. If they could also add an actual belt on the waist area and forego the ribbons.
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  3. #33
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    O'ssu Mecia
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Im pretty 50/50 on healer dresses. I dont mind the Theogonic chest piece for example but i dont care for the Credendum chest. More variety would be good.

    Quote Originally Posted by fulminating View Post
    Some of the hats have been fairly creative, although the recent trend toward simple circlets is a bit disheartening.
    Viera and Hrothgar were a mistake

    Also i would like to take this opportunity to say that i despise Genshins designs, but i get the point.
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  4. #34
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    And it makes no sense healer only wear frilly dresses even if we take into account the concept of cleric.

    In other RPGs, a cleric IS a healer. In fact, he's THE healer. So s/he uses a dress? No, it uses heavy armor. FFXIV wise, a cleric is a healer using fending gear.


    Believe or not, she is a healer.


    She is also a healer.


    His most powerful spell is Cure Mass Wounds. A healer, indeed.

    For me that is one more reason to let everyone use everything in glamour.
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    They had something good with the pvp gear... but from behind, the absurdly long cape makes it look like robes. I wish we could toggle it.

    Besides that, sage kind of is a melee healer. Its AF gear actually reflects that in a way.

    That being said, after so many garbage designs for years, I have no hope they’ll release something different.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by miraidensetsu View Post
    And it makes no sense healer only wear frilly dresses even if we take into account the concept of cleric.

    In other RPGs, a cleric IS a healer. In fact, he's THE healer. So s/he uses a dress? No, it uses heavy armor. FFXIV wise, a cleric is a healer using fending gear.
    I'd love a armored up healer with some melee and magical attacks.
    Kind of why I play Paladin as that's the closest thing you can get to a actual a Magic/melee armoured Healer/protector, I'd also like some sort of Ninja that could heal allies, I think in general theirs a lot of missed opportunity with healer design in this game, as they're all just mages (not to say that i dislike mages but theirs not a lot of Varity)

    Sage is the furthest thing we got from normal healers and to me it just feels like a more futuristic tech healer more then anything that would interest me.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by miraidensetsu View Post
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    Images like these really do make me miss the old small shields (which IMO looked perfect scaled for Lala). I'd love to see them brought back somehow as a glamour option.

    The first picture reminds me why Yagrush is still one of my go to canes to this day, the second is a great bit of design, love it++
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    ~ WHM / badSCH / Snob ~ http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/871132/ ~

  8. #38
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    Noah Orih
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    I don't mean to keep bringing up Genshin all the time, but wanted to share another one because we have some drip marketing for the characters coming in the next patch, and while we don't fully know what their kits look like yet, this character, Gaming (presumably pronounced Gah-Ming), is rumored to be primarily a support who increases party damage in some way but may also have some healing capabilities. He's a lion dancer which I think is extremely epic:

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  9. #39
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    Gisela Thorne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    Agreed, I have similar frustrations with glamming Paladin, I think a lot of the melee (a lot maiming that remove shoulder pads ect), gear just looks better, I want my character to wear armor but at the same time a lot of tank gear is just big shoulder pads that look yikes. Theirs not a lot of tank glams that fill the niche of looking tank like but not awful massive shoulder pads gear, especially just looks odd on my character personally. as I'd like more light weight Armor, which a lot of melee's already get :/

    I mean if I can tank in some casual glam I don't see issues with a Tank wearing something more lighter on armor or a Healer wearing something with more Armor ect. I think being able to mix and match some gear sets would also in general just improve glam options. I've even seen crafter and gatherer sets that would look nice for a certain class, but that's never gonna be used for combat either.

    More freedom in glam is only a positive, we've already passed the bridge of what looks "realistic" for a tank, healer, caster ect. So theirs zero reason why you shouldn't be able to just use glams that aren't made for your role type, I wonder why the current glam system is still very restricting honestly, I'm already very picky when it comes to glams I try to make them make sense in the world but theirs already enough issues with tail/hair clipping this restricted system just makes it even more frustrating for me.
    Slightly off-topic, but yeah, why does every heavy armor set need to have giant shoulder pads? Of course I can understand it being popular in fantasy, but it's not like it's some integral feature of actual historical armor. And you would think it is looking at this game's armor designs, because there's almost zero options for anything else.

    This is very heavy duty armor:



    It has pretty huge shoulder pieces, that still aren't protruding pointlessly. So why does it have to be an undeviating standard in this game to make every heavy armor look like it's from warhammer?
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    Last edited by ThorneDynasty; 12-30-2023 at 03:40 AM.

  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    Agreed, I have similar frustrations with glamming Paladin, I think a lot of the melee (a lot maiming that remove shoulder pads ect), gear just looks better, I want my character to wear armor but at the same time a lot of tank gear is just big shoulder pads that look yikes. Theirs not a lot of tank glams that fill the niche of looking tank like but not awful massive shoulder pads gear, especially just looks odd on my character personally. as I'd like more light weight Armor, which a lot of melee's already get :/
    We as Miqo'te still have it pretty good, have you seen those same shoulderplates on Elezen? They look WoW levels of ridiculous.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 01-01-2024 at 07:47 AM.

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