For the love of god, add a priority system.

[lennit]

You arnt the target, if you dont care about your pixel house, you can quit anytime no issues. But people like myself whos invested time and effort into the system, would likely maintain their subscription to not lose that. Im not forced to play, but that demolishion time is a big incentive not to un-subscribe for me. Of course S.E benefits from me keeping my subscription active for nearly a decade straight to not lose it. You want a house rather than an apt? Quitting will make sure you never see a house, so you can stick around and continue to try your luck. Or you can forfeit and somebody whos willing to wait and try will take your place.

If your house is demo'd, they are hoping someone like myself snags it because that's perpetual free income for as long as a player is invested into it. Now if the demo timer were removed. I can take breaks for as long as i please indefinitely. Which will lose them money.

To address the other thing. People are already complaining about those who have 2 houses. I mean you can offer me a 3rd but people are gonna ask why is that fair?

(Edit: As a console user, rebuilding a house from the ground up takes a long time. New builds are one thing, redoing it all just to move locations? No thank you xD)

i have heard about the players talking about SE need to take action and set some rules for 1 house per data center . my opinion on that. They would have to set a rule for future owners, since the damage is already done. but i only see the a problem on the older data center since the quantity on high demand . but if you go to the OCE server there are empty wards , and i not telling players to transfer , but on OCE have already have different rule then other data center , they still have the old rule for more FC wards then private wards and i think there like 6 ward that are still locked for OCE

[Toutatis]

You arnt the target, if you dont care about your pixel house, you can quit anytime no issues. But people like myself whos invested time and effort into the system, would likely maintain their subscription to not lose that.
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If your house is demo'd, they are hoping someone like myself snags it because that's perpetual free income for as long as a player is invested into it

Oh here we go again with conspiracies. As said above, the revenue brought in by the few people who have an unhealthy attachment to a pixel house and are unable to move on is more than likely immaterial.

Houses are an advertised feature of the game and as we all know the number of available plots is finite and atm active players, including new players only have a limited chance at it except on a few servers with low population (which also come with drawbacks in regards to activity). There is a demand that they are currently unable to meet it. Instanced housing could be a solution. There’s going to be more players with the xbox version and Dawntrail coming soon. An active and satisfied player has the potential of bringing a lot more revenue (extras retainers, mogstation) than an inactive player.


My houses, 1 medium and 2 small, are on different DCs btw, all acquired through the lottery. I have no interest in a large one nor in upgrading my small.

[lennit]

the only conspiracy or a metaphor I have been talking about is the difference between wards and Instanced housing. there has been no mention of Instanced housing from the GM being a thing, it a conspiracy right now from the players wishes on the forums that this is going to come true, it been years now and nothing, and they might do nothing and we can be stuck with wards for years to come. and i am ok with that , because i am over debating about conspiracy theories. on this topic

[Solowing]

Oh here we go again with conspiracies. As said above, the revenue brought in by the few people who have an unhealthy attachment to a pixel house and are unable to move on is more than likely immaterial.

Houses are an advertised feature of the game and as we all know the number of available plots is finite and atm active players, including new players only have a limited chance at it except on a few servers with low population (which also come with drawbacks in regards to activity). There is a demand that they are currently unable to meet it. Instanced housing could be a solution. There’s going to be more players with the xbox version and Dawntrail coming soon. An active and satisfied player has the potential of bringing a lot more revenue (extras retainers, mogstation) than an inactive player.


My houses, 1 medium and 2 small, are on different DCs btw, all acquired through the lottery. I have no interest in a large one nor in upgrading my small.

Housing is an advertised feature of the game with your mixing that up with is a plot. An apartment is still considered housing, whether you like it or not. So they were being truthful when they did say player housing is an advertised feature.

The inability to get a plot is not false advertising when apartments are plentiful, also housing is a minority thing for the community it is not as big as the vocal Community makes it out to be. Many plots and apartments tend to be empty except for those who really invested into it.

[Toutatis]

Housing is an advertised feature of the game with your mixing that up with is a plot. An apartment is still considered housing, whether you like it or not. So they were being truthful when they did say player housing is an advertised feature.

The inability to get a plot is not false advertising when apartments are plentiful, also housing is a minority thing for the community it is not as big as the vocal Community makes it out to be. Many plots and apartments tend to be empty except for those who really invested into it.

I did not mentioned housing for but houses specifically. In my language advertisement clearly refers to building your own house. Maison is NOT an apartment and the English version talks about a “slice of Eorzea” which refers to land together with a house picture. The German version talks about both but room is dealt with as an additional feature/possibility .

With currently 729k plots in the game across all servers + apartments and fc rooms, housing is not such a small thing. It’s also clear that many players want houses, not just apartments.

As for what people do with their plots and apartments, that’s their business. Some people decorate them and just step in them once in a while, others just throw in the basic utilities (retainers, fc chest, vendors, aesthetician, armoire for quick access) but use them all the time, some use them as storage for decos or in view of future decoration.

Their current system is flawed and they know it.

[Solowing]

I did not mentioned housing for but houses specifically. In my language advertisement clearly refers to building your own house. Maison is NOT an apartment and the English version talks about a “slice of Eorzea” which refers to land together with a house picture. The German version talks about both but room is dealt with as an additional feature/possibility .

With currently 729k plots in the game across all servers + apartments and fc rooms, housing is not such a small thing. It’s also clear that many players want houses, not just apartments.

As for what people do with their plots and apartments, that’s their business. Some people decorate them and just step in them once in a while, others just throw in the basic utilities (retainers, fc chest, vendors, aesthetician, armoire for quick access) but use them all the time, some use them as storage for decos or in view of future decoration.

Their current system is flawed and they know it.

Personally I don't think the system is really flawed as clear as Supply was never going to meet them in even before the game exploded in popularity. I think it is a cultural difference and they are happy with the way housing is set up but the Western culture doesn't like that and demands it change. I'm personally fine with it as I did transfer from brynildr to Excalibur and by doing so I lost my medium, and I had to wait a year for a house to open up during the storm blood to get a small. I knew the system I knew how it worked and I knew I had to wait for a plot to open up before I could potentially get one and those were the rules and I had to play by them.

This is still isn't perfect for some people but it's the system that they like and they'll try to work with players to a degree within that system rather than scrapping likely hundreds of man hours of work to get the system in the vision that they wanted.

The company's interest will never 100% align with the players interest. And it's financially beneficial for them to Simply put a demolition time on a house and encourage players to keep their sub or lose it. You may not like that but that is the reality of it, it is nice for everybody to have a house but as someone who had their house for nearly a decade and keeps an active sub just for it what they're doing is pretty effective for them and they see no reason to change it.

[Jojoya]

I mean people are saying instanced housing will solve everything. You think they wont put a demolishion timer on that? And allow 1 section of the player be free to come and go as they please with no penalty with the same size interior house, while the other has 45 days /14 days to not login before they lose their house? (not saying you, its just people want a solution but are ignoring issues that pop u with their solution.)

There's no need for a demo timer with instanced housing. That's why we don't have it on apartments. They don't consume server resources 24/7 unlike a ward house.

Players forget the demo timer exists because of player request. It was not planned in the original system. Nor is it there to keep players subbed. It's there to give more players a chance to acquire a house when they're unable to increase the number of wards for whatever reason. If the demo timer was intended to keep players subbed, it would never be suspended regardless of what was going on in the world.

[Stormpeaks]

There's no need for a demo timer with instanced housing. That's why we don't have it on apartments. They don't consume server resources 24/7 unlike a ward house.

Players forget the demo timer exists because of player request. It was not planned in the original system. Nor is it there to keep players subbed. It's there to give more players a chance to acquire a house when they're unable to increase the number of wards for whatever reason. If the demo timer was intended to keep players subbed, it would never be suspended regardless of what was going on in the world.

"player request"

yeah clearly this doesnt benefit SE in any way lmao

it literally forces people to stay subscribed for their houses

stop it

[Solowing]

There's no need for a demo timer with instanced housing. That's why we don't have it on apartments. They don't consume server resources 24/7 unlike a ward house.

Players forget the demo timer exists because of player request. It was not planned in the original system. Nor is it there to keep players subbed. It's there to give more players a chance to acquire a house when they're unable to increase the number of wards for whatever reason. If the demo timer was intended to keep players subbed, it would never be suspended regardless of what was going on in the world.

The demolition timer was set in place because as it originally was created it didn't have that timer, so players that quit were permanently placed there and the house just stood unused. And with housing being a limited Supply commodity eventually if players didn't get their housed demolished eventually no one would be able to get a house unless Square Enix added more wards and even then the problem with persist.

With the demolition timer it killed two birds with one stone, players that didn't enter the house forfeited it and The Limited commodity would go back up for sale. But also requires an active subscription to even enter the house, so players cannot take long-term breaks without forfeiting their home so it's guaranteed if the player wants to keep their house they will log in once every month which is $15 to Square Enix to continue owning that home. And as much as people hate the system it is effective at what it is designed to do, and as much as they aren't going to say it the system is working exactly as intended.

[Themarvin]

There is a ton of free housing plots out there, go and get them.... yes medium/large may be harsh to get, however you will see more bidding on medium large as it is, but if you are looking for a house and am a first time buyer, put your money on a horse where you are more or less guarentied win, and move on from there in, there is having a house or none at all.