Alliance Raid Now iLvl Locked, Why??

[Erzaa]

You're level 90. You're not on a free trial. You have options to solving the problem for minimum item level required of your own accord. If you choose not to take advantage of those solutions, then that's on you.

Not a solution, a workaround.

You have every right to be upset if you want to be, but you're in the minority of players being negatively impacted here while the rest of the player base has been impacted by people cheesing item level for a decade now, and Square finally said "enough"

I was also impacted by ilvl cheesing, just like everyone else. I support them fixing it, keyword being fix.

I'm not sure what more you want that wouldn't just cause the same problem to pop back up or would

The problem is already going to pop back up. All cheesers need to do now is get to level 90 having unlocked only CT, gear up (using your "solution" no less) and then force CT on everyone anyway.

Meanwhile, you have players who have unlocked additional raids (that variety everyone is looking for) who can't queue because of this.

in all likelihood, be impossible to implement with the game's existing code.

I doubt that, but if that's the case, then I'd like an official response from SE saying that's the case.

Until that happens, how does asking SE for a fix that would also include the players they forgot about, the edge cases, the minority, whatever, hurt anyone in this forum? Why are there so many responses against a fix that has nothing but a positive outcome for everyone?

[Delis]

I wasn't believing it would prevent CT appearing a lot, so people who do this roulette, has it changed that you get CT?

I haven't gotten any of the ARR raids yet since patch. First day I got the second EW raid, yesterday I got one of the SB raid, and today I got one of the Nier raids. So I am pretty happy so far with the changes.

[Asako]

It's definitely a step in the right direction, it's just that it's baby steps that should have been implemented years ago. This isn't something new that the community has had issues with, this has been going on for years now.

[Toutatis]

I'm not sure what more you want that wouldn't just cause the same problem to pop back up or would, in all likelihood, be impossible to implement with the game's existing code.

They can totally do it for AR: it's just adding one more condition. They just fixed Wondrous Tails to take into account MSQ progress and not just level. Idk why they didn't do it with AR.

[wereotter]

They can totally do it for AR: it's just adding one more condition. They just fixed Wondrous Tails to take into account MSQ progress and not just level. Idk why they didn't do it with AR.

Wonderous Tales doesn't use the same system as duty roulette.

[Toutatis]

Wonderous Tales doesn't use the same system as duty roulette.

It's just adding a condition. It's really not complicated. They use that throughout the game for various things, including vendors and quests appearing on the map. It’s very basic.

[DaichiSilurus]

They can totally do it for AR: it's just adding one more condition. They just fixed Wondrous Tails to take into account MSQ progress and not just level. Idk why they didn't do it with AR.

Off topic, but - the patch notes SAY they made a change here, but I'm in ShB patch content and my tails this week still contains level 90 dungeons and three different level 90 raids, so that's four duties on the list that I still can't do. Whatever they changed it isn't what it sounded like, or it only affects a limited set of duties.

Wonderous Tales doesn't use the same system as duty roulette.

There should have been an easy solution here, because the duty roulette knows what duties you have unlocked. That's... kind of fundamental to it being able to put you into them in the first place. Even before you're actually in matchmaking, it needs to check that you have at least two duties that you currently meet the requirements of, while we know from the way limited levelling roulette works that it's also capable of checking more narrowly (that specifically checks for duties within 8 levels of the job you're queueing on).

The obvious way to fix this is to check what the highest alliance raid you could manually queue for is, which the duty finder already has to be doing anyway before it can matchmake you, and base the ilvl requirement off that. Problem solved, people don't get locked out for no reason, people still can't prevent matchmaking for raids they have unlocked. And it doesn't matter that people just won't unlock the raids, because the current implementation does nothing to stop that either.

Checking your MSQ progress instead would also work to fix the problem but is likely harder to implement and the end result wouldn't be meaningfully different, it would just make you gear up to your current story (which you should be doing for MSQ dungeons anyway) even if you didn't unlock the raids.

[fulminating]

I'm not sure what more you want that wouldn't just cause the same problem to pop back up or would, in all likelihood, be impossible to implement with the game's existing code.

You get a title for beating each base expansion, just use that instead it's not rocket science. They already use achievements and or titles as flags (for example makai gear repurchasing) so it's well within their abilities.

[Snowfire]

Like the title says, why is the Alliance Raid roulette suddenly ilvl locked?

When you have all the expansions purchased, you can end up leveling all the way up to 90 while still being in HW or SB and still only having those alliance raids opened.

So I have a character who's only at the end of HW and just getting the Void Ark raids, but I'm being told I'm locked out of allaince raid roulette because I don't have ilvl 565 gear? When the highest alliance raid I have access to only requires 175 gear?

Does anyone know how I can remove that? Or if I can't, a way to ask SE to fix it so it goes by highest raid we have unlocked instead of level? (unless they're going to start locking levels by what content we're in)

No, I'm not trolling; yes, this is legitimately bothering me.

Because people were getting sick and tired of doing Crystal Tower every single day for Alliance Roulette. If ONE person forgets to swap their gear, everyone gets CT.

I don't mind doing CT if someone is legit level 50 and doing it for the first time. But once you hit level 90, CT is a snooze fest. There are so much better Alliance raids and they are more fun to do because you actually need to do the mechanics.

[anarchaeopteryx]

I'm going to state it simply. I am mid-way through Stormblood. I started playing FFXIV less than a year ago. I like taking my time with the MSQ and most days all I want to do is a roulette or two, check on my retainers, hang out with my FC. I am on Dynamis so at some points I have seen 600%+ EXP buffs with the Road to 80. One MSQ roulette usually = 2+ levels gained, so you can level a job 50-60 in a week without even trying. I have levelled 11 of 19 jobs to 60 almost entirely via MSQ, tomestone events, and daily roulettes because I wanted to spread around some of that EXP. I only do MSQ on one job now because that alone is so much EXP. It's ridiculous. The point I am making is playing multiple jobs is completely insufficient to deal with overlevelling, it is not that simple so please stop saying it.

I have the level 50 & 60 alliance raids unlocked because that is what I have access to. I want to be able to do alliance raids with the jobs that I enjoy playing the most and am most comfortable with. I do not enjoy playing most of those 11 jobs I have levelled. And a lot of the time, queuing for the roulette is substantially faster than hard-queuing for individual raids. I enjoy alliance raids and want to play them more often, is that so strange?

I do not want to buy my level 90 jobs level 90 market board equipment because I do not *need* level 90 market board equipment. I have plenty of gil, that is not the problem. I entirely understand why the requirements have been introduced. It cannot be that hard to change the ilvl requirement to be based on the player's highest raid's level.

If I could have turned off Road to 80 when I finished ARR I completely would have, but now it feels like I'm being punished for simply being on Dynamis and not speedrunning the MSQ like a significant chunk of the replies on this thread seems to think you should. I hope someone from SquareEnix has more patience to read this thread than I do and appreciates what a disappointment this is for people who just want to have fun playing this game and aren't min-maxers or cheaters.