Ty: Thing is, we don't know they're not listening to feedback. Apparently, the JP folks tell them they want more healing, not more damage buttons, so we got P5-8S, which drove people away from raiding because of it. Further, you don't make changes like this in a content patch. There's more or less zero chance of a final expansion patch - when they're shipping it then basically go into a semi-maintenance mode for the next 6-8 months while they finish working on the Expansion - being when they completely upend the battle system. I do remember WoW released new expansion changes a week or two before the expansion, but that was part of the pre-expansion patch and events, not the content patch 6-8 months earlier.

As for no PTR: They don't want data mining. Straight up. We've seen WoW release new raid tiers where people went into the PTR and basically worked out all the strats, which completely changes both the world first race and the expectation for how much all players know when tier/expansion hits. PARTICULARLY in regards to expansions, they play those very very close to the chest. They don't even release ability potency changes anymore because the playerbase gave them so much flak over that.

When I say we're where we are due to the playerbase, I'm serious.

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Sebazy: That's unfair. They don't post them because people tend to go ballistic on them for it, even when it's totally uncalled for. When people get their hands on things, they tend to see that most things work better than their initial numbers assessments. And again, if the backlash - "warranted" or not - was not so vicious, they wouldn't do it. It's a case of "this is why we can't have nice things".