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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Right...but that's also not the question. I guess what I'm getting at is if people would praise it and say "This is great, don't ever touch SCH again, please, this is perfection!" or if they'd be like "Well.......this is a START. But we need more/changes/some of it's very dated/unfun, how about..." kind of stuff. Like, was it truly good, to the point getting it now would satisfy from now on, or was it not REALLY good, people just have rose-tinted feelings about it, but if it was directly ported into 6.4/6.5, people would notice it not having stood up to the test of time?

    And before anyone says that's somehow impossible; Many 5.5 SMNs would be perfectly happy having 5.5 SMN back EXACTLY as it was with no changes. Many DRGs right now want no changes at all made to it, as the Job is, to many, effectively perfect as it is, and changes would be downgrades, not upgrades, with a likely rework being perceived as likely also a downgrade. What I'm curious about is if SB SCH was truly the peak of the mountain it's often presented as here, or something imperfect itself with nostalgia just clouding people's judgement in the matter.
    But, I did answer your question in the first part of the sentence you quoted. I just needed to expand on my answer because it isn't as simple as a "yes" or "no." There's nuance to it, and trying to elaborate on that context is important if you're trying to have a conversation about what people want in Scholar.

    People want to see growth and development in a live service game. One of the most exciting moments before a new expansion is the job actions trailer teasing players about what's new and different about their favorite jobs. It would feel sour to see that all they could manage to do to improve on Scholar would be to go back to the exact state it was in two expansions ago and not expand on that in any way. People would probably be excited to see the return of spells like Miasma, Miasma II, and Shadow Flare, but there would be a feeling of defeat seeing that the job has effectively been in a 6 year state of stagnation in a game that's supposed to grow and change.

    You gave examples of jobs where players want those jobs to be reverted or to be left alone, but you're ignoring the context of why people feel that way. It's because many players have lost faith in Square's ability to rework jobs and are afraid of the outcome. If the direction of job design were universally more positive, and the result of new jobs and reworks was largely acknowledged as a good thing, Dragoon players would likely be excited for the Dawntrail rework.
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    Last edited by ty_taurus; 09-15-2023 at 05:48 PM.