Zepla: Endwalker is the Worst FFXIV Expansion I have played

[Jojoya]

I just miss that slow grind I had in ShB that I found fun that I just haven't found with the EW stuff.

Fair enough. You're not the only one to say that you miss having a new grind to work on.

That's weird, because many people on the forums will immediately jump to the argument that they don't want to feel pressured to play the game every time someone mentions replayability.

Something can be made replayable without adding pressure to have to log in. '

Gemstones have made FATEs replayable. There are a huge number of rewards to purchase between ShB and EW not to mention that the crafting materials are useful. Personally i use a lot of Growth Formula Kappa. Without gemstones, I'd probably have to send my retainers after the materials instead of sending them after other things that don't have gemstones as a handy source.

On the opposite end, Eureka and Bozja are not replayable in my eyes because I don't enjoy grind content where there is loss of progress earned and have no interest in acquiring shiny weapons for the sake of having collection of shiny weapons. There are plenty of weapon designs available through other means that I like so there was no compelling reason to go to the extra effort.

Some won't consider FATEs replayable. Others consider Eureka/Bozja replayable. What we like is generally going to be what's replayable.

you will find out quickly there will always be someone on the forums who wants the exact opposite of whatever is added to FF14, when bozja and eureka came out and during the entire expansions the forums was full of this content is bad and will kill the game.

yet here we are but also look we didnt get that content this time and look here once again someone is saying the game is going to die because something was or wasn't added to the game once you get use to the fact someone is going to wrongly cry wolf you will just laugh alittle and go about your day.

like seriously the forum repeat itself every year, every patch its like clockwork.

And those saying Eureka/Bozja would kill the game probably are not the same ones who currently say they miss having the content.

Everyone enjoys different things and will be attracted to different content. It's only natural you're going to see the merry-go-round of complaints when one segment isn't getting the content they like.

Part of that survey design felt disingenuous. It seemed to be created in a matter specifically to provoke the people completing it to only provide positive responses to avoid negative feedback.

Players are misunderstanding the point of the survey. It wasn't to provide feedback on game design. It was to provide SE with information to use for anniversary marketing. I'm willing to bet the dev team had zero input on the survey questions being used.

If nothing else, surely they'd have data on their end in regards to what the most popular mounts and minions are?

I don't know that they'd track which mounts and pets players are using, only which they've collected. There's also the chance that the mount and minion a player uses the most aren't actually what the player considers their favorites (maybe they're intended to go with a glamour the player is using for their main job but others are their actual favorites).

At the same time it pretty much rubbed me the same way as the surveys that do ask about things you disliked but only allow you to choose 1 option on the list instead of all that are applicable.

The survey felt like they were trying to compile information for a "typical Warrior of Light profile" with the top responses to be used in that upcoming story they kept referencing.

What we need is a survey done by the development team, not the marketing team.

[ChrysOCE]

Players are misunderstanding the point of the survey. It wasn't to provide feedback on game design. It was to provide SE with information to use for anniversary marketing. I'm willing to bet the dev team had zero input on the survey questions being used.


I don't know that they'd track which mounts and pets players are using, only which they've collected. There's also the chance that the mount and minion a player uses the most aren't actually what the player considers their favorites (maybe they're intended to go with a glamour the player is using for their main job but others are their actual favorites).


The survey felt like they were trying to compile information for a "typical Warrior of Light profile" with the top responses to be used in that upcoming story they kept referencing.

What we need is a survey done by the development team, not the marketing team.

Whether intended or not. They release a "10th Anniversary Survey!" Finally, maybe, a chance to actually pass feedback to the developers. Cause for sure, they don't seem to pay any attention to any other avenue of feedback. Nope, it's just pure marketing fluff.

[Oizen]

IMO, part of this actually falls on Square Enix proper since the 10th anniversary survey they just released is a missed opportunity for them to get legitimate feedback from players outside of the thread/forum space where people say things for the LOLs. I think if they actually wanted feedback from the non-JP playerbase, they'd give us a survey once every year to two years. It just is what it is though since we never get any confirmation that they actually scour these forums for feedback from overseas.

They don't want feedback. They want the diehard fanbase to vote for yet another story focused around G'raha Tia doing a funny face while eating funny food, and they want them to cheer for it, and they will.

Its very likely that the form doesn't even send information anywhere, as its all useless anyway.

[Aldath]

Whether intended or not. They release a "10th Anniversary Survey!" Finally, maybe, a chance to actually pass feedback to the developers. Cause for sure, they don't seem to pay any attention to any other avenue of feedback. Nope, it's just pure marketing fluff.

The survey sadly was just "What would you like to buy from us?" questions.

[Amenara]

Something can be made replayable without adding pressure to have to log in. '

Gemstones have made FATEs replayable. There are a huge number of rewards to purchase between ShB and EW not to mention that the crafting materials are useful. Personally i use a lot of Growth Formula Kappa. Without gemstones, I'd probably have to send my retainers after the materials instead of sending them after other things that don't have gemstones as a handy source.

On the opposite end, Eureka and Bozja are not replayable in my eyes because I don't enjoy grind content where there is loss of progress earned and have no interest in acquiring shiny weapons for the sake of having collection of shiny weapons. There are plenty of weapon designs available through other means that I like so there was no compelling reason to go to the extra effort.

Some won't consider FATEs replayable. Others consider Eureka/Bozja replayable. What we like is generally going to be what's replayable.

I really think the gemstone system could be a way too add some replayability to overworld content. I think it would be good to have rotating rewards from all the different areas to encourage players to go out and fate farm. Maybe have mini events with fates in a specific zone for a week every month or something along those lines. Have rewards that rotate throughout the course of a year so that you can get out, do fates, get the new stuff, and not really feel pressured as maybe the rewards will make a reappearance later.

[FenyxRising]

If nothing else, surely they'd have data on their end in regards to what the most popular mounts and minions are?

That just shows it's purely a PR campaign, nothing more really.

[FenyxRising]

The survey sadly was just "What would you like to buy from us?" questions.

I wonder why no one questions how come 33% of any live letter right now is merch sales ?

[Bonoki]

I wonder why no one questions how come 33% of any live letter right now is merch sales ?

Because they specifically allocate that time to merch in a Live Letter. It's not rocket science. If they say a LL is one hour and thirty minutes one day. Then another day they say a LL is two hours, that just means that they extended the LL to include merch.

[IvoryHawk]

"yoshiP said you should go play other games in between patches"

Say that to the housing system, you're locked in buddy, he knows you can't go play other games and just "unsub till next patch", it's th crutch they know a LOT of people won't unsub for, it feels very insincere.

[FenyxRising]

Because they specifically allocate that time to merch in a Live Letter. It's not rocket science. If they say a LL is one hour and thirty minutes one day. Then another day they say a LL is two hours, that just means that they extended the LL to include merch.

Yes but why is it acceptable now ?