Square Enix Loses Nearly $2 Billion in Value Since Final Fantasy 16

[Rolder50]

Now we know why they never take any risks with FF14. If they accidentally made a bad call and had a catastrophic patch or two, it'd probably take the whole company down with it.

[Noumenon]

Honestly with the lack of attention it had recently, and how people will blame FFXVI relative failure (if it's really one, I have no opinion on that, but from that article, that kinda seems the case) on Yoshida, the game might not be cancelled, but I would not be surprised if it suffered big changes, and maybe not for the better. SE is not known for his strategic choices, and the president coming from the strategic division, I have a lot of doubts on his capacity to deal with the problem. SE is the Capcom from 15 years ago.

The article did not say FF16 is a failure, it said FF16 failed to cover for other failures.

What this means is that FF16 is a 'meh', but SE cannot be affording to making anymore 'meh's. They need a 'wow' (and not in the Forspoken way where the 'wow' is 'wow this is garbage').

I highly doubt Dawntrail will be a 'wow'. One can only hope that the suits at SE realize that their games need to break the formula and aim to be masterpieces instead of being mediocre, rehashed, and safe.

[Noumenon]

Now we know why they never take any risks with FF14. If they accidentally made a bad call and had a catastrophic patch or two, it'd probably take the whole company down with it.

The lack of taking risks is what's going to kill FF14 eventually. They cannot afford to make another 'meh' expansion.

[OgruMogru]

Honestly with the lack of attention it had recently, and how people will blame FFXVI relative failure (if it's really one, I have no opinion on that, but from that article, that kinda seems the case) on Yoshida, the game might not be cancelled, but I would not be surprised if it suffered big changes, and maybe not for the better. SE is not known for his strategic choices, and the president coming from the strategic division, I have a lot of doubts on his capacity to deal with the problem. SE is the Capcom from 15 years ago.

His presence at fanfest was ghoulish. Legitimately got a sinking dread feeling the longer he was there.

[Ivtrix]

Ive read that a big factor in this is how badly ps5 sales have been going. One figure i read stated that there was an estimated of 30% of ps5s which have never been turned on which means tons are still sitting with scalpers refusing to sell them for a loss.

This looks to me that this is a myriad of issues with both playstation as well as square. Square def has its own issues, theyre trying to recover from how bad that terrible marvel game flopped.

Having to wait until 2024 to be able to possibly buy FF XVI isn't helping it as they do have that 6 month exclusivity for the PS5 and I dunno how long it'll take them to actually make a port of it...

god this only fuels my hatred of exclusives even more

playstation trying real hard with them to get me to buy a ps5 but im not going to do that, sorry

[Hanayumi]

Yeah... dont think SE has much to worry or its investors, even with FFXIV shortcomings as of late, there just really isnt heavy competition with MMOs anymore and prolly wont be for a long while. SE still has its usual ace with FFVII and Rebirth will certainly make them bank. Im curious if future will forever just stick to its usual series of games or try again at new games, guess we'll see...

[CaptainLagbeard]

It's pure copium to think the PC port will help matters.

It's obviously not gonna be selling like billions of copies or anything, but I would imagine that a very large percentage of FF 14 players' are on PC and not on the PS5.

So there is more likely than not a lot of people who play FF XIV, and want to play XVI but do not have a PS5 so they currently can't. And when they finally can, then you can go and declare it to be a failure if it is.

god this only fuels my hatred of exclusives even more

playstation trying real hard with them to get me to buy a ps5 but im not going to do that, sorry

FF XVI would probably be currently the only reason to buy a PS5... And it alone definitely would not be worth the money.

[ZephyrMenodora]

It's obviously not gonna be selling like billions of copies or anything, but I would imagine that a very large percentage of FF 14 players' are on PC and not on the PS5.

So there is more likely than not a lot of people who play FF XIV, and want to play XVI but do not have a PS5 so they currently can't. And when they finally can, then you can go and declare it to be a failure if it is.

I think PS5 FF16 benefited from releasing before BG3. A lot of PC RPG players will probably be playing that or will have that to compare FF16 to when they get around to it, and regrettably FF16 just doesn't really hold up in comparison. Any hype for 16 pretty rapidly diminished - I don't think it's really getting any 9 or 10 out of 10 word of mouth any more.

[Aldath]

SE is an Uroboros, a constant cycle of failure and rebirth that goes something like this:
>Celebrity status fool makes a big, expensive vanity project.
>Project causes financial disarray.
>Employee has an idea that saves the company.
>Previous celebrity employee gets pushed to the background to lead projects of varying quality.
>Savior employee gets surrounded by Yes Men and given free reign within the company, elevating him to celebrity status.
>Celebrity status fool makes a big, expensive vanity project...

[Ivtrix]

FF XVI would probably be currently the only reason to buy a PS5... And it alone definitely would not be worth the money.

thats how i feel and thats why i havnt bought a ps5