Zepla: Endwalker is the Worst FFXIV Expansion I have played

[VerdeLuck]

what part of this quote: "I'm tired of hearing people say: 'well we don't want this game to just be a huge grind'. No one is saying that, stop jumping to this extreme" do people not understand

The thread is about a twitch streamer who plays the game 8+ hours a day every day saying she is out of content and not having fun because she thinks it's not lasting long enough for her. The only way to keep those people supplied with content is to stretch out grinds, that's it. That's what you get when you ask for longer lasting content for streamers.
We're already getting about the same number of instances/dungeons/raids/trials/QOL fixes as previous expansions if not more in some criteria. The way that SE is goig to look at this when they hear it's not lasting long enough is to just throw more grinding in to make everything take longer to achieve.

[Zairava]

The thread is about a twitch streamer who plays the game 8+ hours a day every day saying she is out of content and not having fun because she thinks it's not lasting long enough for her. The only way to keep those people supplied with content is to stretch out grinds, that's it. That's what you get when you ask for longer lasting content for streamers.
We're already getting about the same number of instances/dungeons/raids/trials/QOL fixes as previous expansions if not more in some criteria. The way that SE is goig to look at this when they hear it's not lasting long enough is to just throw more grinding in to make everything take longer to achieve.

This wouldn't be an issue if the content they did release actually had incentives to keep running it, now would it?

I could fit in other games even when Bozja was current content. You control how much you play the game and grind, not the content itself.

Ugh. Yet again, you don't need to tell us that we're getting the same old things that come with the patches by default. We already know. Those are baseline and the problem is basically everything else they tried this expansion.

[Supersnow845]

The thread is about a twitch streamer who plays the game 8+ hours a day every day saying she is out of content and not having fun because she thinks it's not lasting long enough for her. The only way to keep those people supplied with content is to stretch out grinds, that's it. That's what you get when you ask for longer lasting content for streamers.

Yes and there are those of us who play 1 time a week or 1 hour a day and ran out of content basically the week the last patch released

Zepla knows that if she streams a game 8 hours a day 7 days a week she is going to run out of content, that isn’t an excuse to release less than 8 hours of content every 7 months

[Nebelheim]

The thread is about a twitch streamer who plays the game 8+ hours a day every day saying she is out of content and not having fun because she thinks it's not lasting long enough for her. The only way to keep those people supplied with content is to stretch out grinds, that's it. That's what you get when you ask for longer lasting content for streamers.

What content in endwalkers is long lasting though which no one seems to list off when claiming there is long lasting content. Everyone tends to tell people to just go back to past expansions and farm stuff but we shouldn't have to do that. If endwalkers actually provided long term content we wouldn't have to go to past expansions for things to do. Older mmos like wow and ff11 always kept old and current content relevant which gave a wide variety of weely and daily content to do.

[R041]

The thread is about a twitch streamer who plays the game 8+ hours a day every day saying she is out of content and not having fun because she thinks it's not lasting long enough for her. The only way to keep those people supplied with content is to stretch out grinds, that's it. That's what you get when you ask for longer lasting content for streamers.

You failed the vibe check

If you had paid attention to literally any of the talking points, you would realize they haven't even had the opportunity to stay logged in for longer than a few hours worth of content for whole patch cycles. lol

[AlexiaD]

The thread is about a twitch streamer who plays the game 8+ hours a day every day saying she is out of content and not having fun because she thinks it's not lasting long enough for her. The only way to keep those people supplied with content is to stretch out grinds, that's it. That's what you get when you ask for longer lasting content for streamers.
We're already getting about the same number of instances/dungeons/raids/trials/QOL fixes as previous expansions if not more in some criteria. The way that SE is goig to look at this when they hear it's not lasting long enough is to just throw more grinding in to make everything take longer to achieve.

"a twitch streamers who plays the game 8 hrs+ a day"

she can barely make a single stream worth of actual content before running out of content and just starting to talk about the game or other things,play other games or just watching youtube videos

I wonder why that is

oh because there is no long lasting content so she runs out of stuff to do in a day, a few days if she stretches it

[Themarvin]

Just say you think any and all constructive feedback should be ignored and get it over with. You will keep calling yourself out that you didn't even watch the video because she performed the literal definition of extensive constructive criticism.


Even hardcore raiders are either burned out or bored

Feedback will always be relevant because nothing improves without it. Keep being ignorant because you clearly have no intention of being anything else but. You constantly dismiss other peoples' posts then put in your own unwanted input not a single soul actually asked for, which by your own logic is completely worthless.
SNIP

That is because with FFXIV you can't sum it up on one persons opinion.... also some content may not be for all, but if you keep focus only on what is new, then you might as well quit playing a game like this permanently and never look back, it is a weak statement otherwise.

There is tonnes of content TO DO in FFXIV, and it does not all have to be what has been added within the last 6 to 12 months, that is decadent to suppose like that, and as for a streamer it takes away the purpose entirely from the goal line, which should be like enjoying and showing off the game as a whole, not just the most new content, so in other words with all you say there is that you are off the chart entirely of what a game like this is all about.

Hardcore raider in FFXIV? Come on!!! if you want hardcore raiding play a game like Baldurs Gate 3, where you litterally can set yourself up for harsh 20minute fights or more, depending on how and in which situation you dare to put yourself in and let the dice determine the outcome and not some preset script.

Come on?!?

Also you are supposed to be hitting the wall with MMOs sooner or later, no matter how much content, YOU WILL run out of it and at some point it WILL be very repeatable, and that is a fact WITH ANY MMO THAT HAS BEEN EVER made even precious World of Warcraft... so come on... those clowns with a mic and a webcam got absolutely nothing to come with, with their statement and they know next to nothing about development time, and then upon that QA and testing, due to you want as few bugs as possible upon release, because if bug ridden... then those pathetic Streamers would then hail down all the bugs and the likes instead.

So you are playing with a double edged sword where there is no true path and one fact that Content will never be able to keep up with MMOs as in new content and stories.

But FFXIV is a MMORPG... Massive Multiplayer Online Roleplaying Game, and to get the life with that for good, then you actually need to be a Roleplayer other than doing the trivial stuff, and that is also a horrible fact that those streamers DO get wrong... and heck most of the people playing games like this as well.

Please start making sense.

[Zairava]

That is because with FFXIV you can't sum it up on one persons opinion.... also some content may not be for all, but if you keep focus only on what is new, then you might as well quit playing a game like this permanently and never look back, it is a weak statement otherwise.

There is tonnes of content TO DO in FFXIV, and it does not all have to be what has been added within the last 6 to 12 months, that is decadent to suppose like that, and as for a streamer it takes away the purpose entirely from the goal line, which should be like enjoying and showing off the game as a whole, not just the most new content, so in other words with all you say there is that you are off the chart entirely of what a game like this is all about.

Hardcore raider in FFXIV? Come on!!! if you want hardcore raiding play a game like Baldurs Gate 3, where you litterally can set yourself up for harsh 20minute fights or more, depending on how and in which situation you dare to put yourself in and let the dice determine the outcome and not some preset script.

Come on?!?

Also you are supposed to be hitting the wall with MMOs sooner or later, no matter how much content, YOU WILL run out of it and at some point it WILL be very repeatable, and that is a fact WITH ANY MMO THAT HAS BEEN EVER made even precious World of Warcraft... so come on... those clowns with a mic and a webcam got absolutely nothing to come with, with their statement and they know next to nothing about development time, and then upon that QA and testing, due to you want as few bugs as possible upon release, because if bug ridden... then those pathetic Streamers would then hail down all the bugs and the likes instead.

So you are playing with a double edged sword where there is no true path and one fact that Content will never be able to keep up with MMOs as in new content and stories.

But FFXIV is a MMORPG... Massive Multiplayer Online Roleplaying Game, and to get the life with that for good, then you actually need to be a Roleplayer other than doing the trivial stuff, and that is also a horrible fact that those streamers DO get wrong... and heck most of the people playing games like this as well.

Please start making sense.

The best part of your responses is I don't even have to do anything, you make yourself look like a clown.

[AlexiaD]

That is because with FFXIV you can't sum it up on one persons opinion.... also some content may not be for all, but if you keep focus only on what is new, then you might as well quit playing a game like this permanently and never look back, it is a weak statement otherwise.

There is tonnes of content TO DO in FFXIV, and it does not all have to be what has been added within the last 6 to 12 months, that is decadent to suppose like that, and as for a streamer it takes away the purpose entirely from the goal line, which should be like enjoying and showing off the game as a whole, not just the most new content, so in other words with all you say there is that you are off the chart entirely of what a game like this is all about.

Hardcore raider in FFXIV? Come on!!! if you want hardcore raiding play a game like Baldurs Gate 3, where you litterally can set yourself up for harsh 20minute fights or more, depending on how and in which situation you dare to put yourself in and let the dice determine the outcome and not some preset script.

Come on?!?

Also you are supposed to be hitting the wall with MMOs sooner or later, no matter how much content, YOU WILL run out of it and at some point it WILL be very repeatable, and that is a fact WITH ANY MMO THAT HAS BEEN EVER made even precious World of Warcraft... so come on... those clowns with a mic and a webcam got absolutely nothing to come with, with their statement and they know next to nothing about development time, and then upon that QA and testing, due to you want as few bugs as possible upon release, because if bug ridden... then those pathetic Streamers would then hail down all the bugs and the likes instead.

So you are playing with a double edged sword where there is no true path and one fact that Content will never be able to keep up with MMOs as in new content and stories.

But FFXIV is a MMORPG... Massive Multiplayer Online Roleplaying Game, and to get the life with that for good, then you actually need to be a Roleplayer other than doing the trivial stuff, and that is also a horrible fact that those streamers DO get wrong... and heck most of the people playing games like this as well.

Please start making sense.

yeah ok dude

There is tonnes of content TO DO in FFXIV

Like ?

ardcore raider in FFXIV? Come on!!! if you want hardcore raiding play a game like Baldurs Gate 3, where you litterally can set yourself up for harsh 20minute fights or more, depending on how and in which situation you dare to put yourself in and let the dice determine the outcome and not some preset script.

LMAO

what a mess this post is

[Supersnow845]

That is because with FFXIV you can't sum it up on one persons opinion.... also some content may not be for all, but if you keep focus only on what is new, then you might as well quit playing a game like this permanently and never look back, it is a weak statement otherwise.

There is tonnes of content TO DO in FFXIV, and it does not all have to be what has been added within the last 6 to 12 months, that is decadent to suppose like that, and as for a streamer it takes away the purpose entirely from the goal line, which should be like enjoying and showing off the game as a whole, not just the most new content, so in other words with all you say there is that you are off the chart entirely of what a game like this is all about.

Hardcore raider in FFXIV? Come on!!! if you want hardcore raiding play a game like Baldurs Gate 3, where you litterally can set yourself up for harsh 20minute fights or more, depending on how and in which situation you dare to put yourself in and let the dice determine the outcome and not some preset script.

Come on?!?

Also you are supposed to be hitting the wall with MMOs sooner or later, no matter how much content, YOU WILL run out of it and at some point it WILL be very repeatable, and that is a fact WITH ANY MMO THAT HAS BEEN EVER made even precious World of Warcraft... so come on... those clowns with a mic and a webcam got absolutely nothing to come with, with their statement and they know next to nothing about development time, and then upon that QA and testing, due to you want as few bugs as possible upon release, because if bug ridden... then those pathetic Streamers would then hail down all the bugs and the likes instead.

So you are playing with a double edged sword where there is no true path and one fact that Content will never be able to keep up with MMOs as in new content and stories.

But FFXIV is a MMORPG... Massive Multiplayer Online Roleplaying Game, and to get the life with that for good, then you actually need to be a Roleplayer other than doing the trivial stuff, and that is also a horrible fact that those streamers DO get wrong... and heck most of the people playing games like this as well.

Please start making sense.

yes please start making sense

Not one paragraph in that wall made any sense at all