Zepla: Endwalker is the Worst FFXIV Expansion I have played

[JamieRose]

Drama is definitely the mortar that holds these forums together.

[Kaurhz]

Ren and I will both get "wordy" at times but it's probably because we have a different educational background from most here in the forums. I was taught to be detailed in my arguments. Evidently the generation raised on social media can't handle that.

Uh, educational background is irrelevant. At any level of education and even at any point in time you're really taught about brevity and clarity in writing. Yes, you need to be detailed, but there is a fine line between being detailed and hyper-saturating points with an egregious word count. There's literally no need to write something that is 200 words when it can be concisely written in under 50.

People can handle it, they just have a greater appreciation for time.

[FenyxRising]

It really starts to make sense when some people are the way they are when you learn about their age.

[CidHeiral]

Thats what it is for real. Just dont like how the word "impossible" tends to get overused between them and the audience. Like of course the resources and coding arent up to par but saying "its impossible" is not the answer they should give.

Its ok to just say, "its currently improbable but we may or will work on it".

I agree that would be a reasonable and more accurate response to give, but unfortunately players are often unreasonable. "We'll see what we can do" is twisted into "the devs PROMISED _____ !!!" We've all seen people whip themselves into a frenzy over something misconstrued or not said at all.

I don't blame any developer for wanting to just say they can't do a thing at all and then pleasantly surprise people later if the circumstances change. I've seen devs receive death threats for slightly changing the stats on a gun in an FPS. I would do the same thing in the dev's position.

[remiff]

I agree that would be a reasonable and more accurate response to give, but unfortunately players are often unreasonable. "We'll see what we can do" is twisted into "the devs PROMISED _____ !!!" We've all seen people whip themselves into a frenzy over something misconstrued or not said at all.

I don't blame any developer for wanting to just say they can't do a thing at all and then pleasantly surprise people later if the circumstances change. I've seen devs receive death threats for slightly changing the stats on a gun in an FPS. I would do the same thing in the dev's position.

With Final Fantasy 14's engine code, yes, it's challenging, but to say it's impossible is purely an excuse.
What they've repeatedly told us was impossible actually became possible with the investment of money and time.

So yes, sometimes it's a major challenge, but nothing is impossible if they truly want it.

[CidHeiral]

With Final Fantasy 14's engine code, yes, it's challenging, but to say it's impossible is purely an excuse.
What they've repeatedly told us was impossible actually became possible with the investment of money and time.

So yes, sometimes it's a major challenge, but nothing is impossible if they truly want it.

This was addressed previously in the conversation but it's easy to miss with how quickly the pages have been filling.

[Swordsman]

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[ElysiumDragon]

Why would I trust the opinion of a mediocre content creator whose gripes with FF14 are entirely self-inflicted? No one asked for that 26 minute rant video, Xepla, everything you feel is entirely your own fault.

[remiff]

This was addressed previously in the conversation but it's easy to miss with how quickly the pages have been filling.

"I understand, but I admit I haven't read all those messages.
It's progressing quickly, and many messages simply don't make me want to read them, between those who troll and those who post unreadable novels,
"I admit that the original topic was interesting to see various opinions, but the drift of some and the 105 pages just make me want to skim through things or even completely change the subject. :s

[Zairava]

Challenge for you - pull up Zepla's video and watch it again. Put Ren's post to the side so you can compare.

Which is the long winded one?

It's easier to watch or listen to someone say it than it is to read it. Different people absorb information in different ways. Some it's better reading, some are better auditory. This is some of the most basic understanding you can have.

The bigger point is that this is an internet forum, seeing a gigantic wall of text that can be summarized with the point made much shorter makes people not want to read it, especially when it's a constant. We're aren't here to read booklets overexplaining something that's brutally overanalyzed and gets us nowhere.

I went to school in the 70s. When did you?

Trust me, the education system these days is very different from what it was for my generation. Ask your parents or your grandparents.

I try to not do this in a response, and if I do I usually edit it out or modify it in hindsight, but I'll just be blunt here. Literally no one cares, what years you went to school is completely irrelevant. Age is not an indicator of anything except how old you are. It does not bring wisdom, it does not by default mean you are more intelligent or better at anything as age on its own does not provide such, experience does.

Things changing in education and with the times is nothing new and is inevitable.