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    Player FenyxRising's Avatar
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    Fenyx Rising
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 90

    Zero roulette rewards for lethargic play especially in Frontlines

    The Mogtome event has created too many people who play lethargically in various roulettes, which by the way is against the ToS so thank me for informing you later.

    There's already a piece of content in the game that gives you 20% of the rewards if you play badly/AFK, and it's Chocobo racing, which happens if you get last.

    They need to do that for every part of the game, there's no reason for someone in Frontlines to do less than 100k damage to other players, just none. That means they were either AFK or just doing nothing the whole time. They should not get any reward, why should they get as much reward as the people who carried them to victory with 15+ kills ? Same for dungeons, if you do less than 3000 DPS in a Lv90 dungeon you should get no reward, because an auto-attack is 3000 damage, if you do less than that that means you're not even using auto attacks really.

    This isn't to punish players who are just bad but to dissuade players who ain't even playing. As long as you are trying you won't get no rewards don't worry.
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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    They should be able to track the damage done in roulettes as well since they do it for PvP.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    EgilTheStressedMage's Avatar
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    Egil Vairemont
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    Watch the people who as WHM spam Holy and never heal in Meridianum attack the thread like angry hornets.
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    Player FenyxRising's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by EgilTheStressedMage View Post
    Watch the people who as WHM spam Holy and never heal in Meridianum attack the thread like angry hornets.
    What is there to heal in Castrum Meridianum ? Actually you should very much be using almost nothing, other than the very occasional Medica II, there really is nothing to heal.
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    Eveanna Manolin
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    Leviathan
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    Sage Lv 100
    It's simple, start calling them a "tomer". Every time they say something just respond with "okay tomer". Tomers are dead-weight and ruin the experience for everybody else. It's time to start calling it out and calling these people what they are.
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    Player Karious's Avatar
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    Rukoko Ruko
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I'm very close to finally getting my achievement Allagan mount from Frontline and have been putting in a ton of effort to see my team succeed, so it's incredibly frustrating when people in alliance chat just talk about chilling or letting the other teams win because they get their tomes regardless. If I try to talk to people about actually trying I'm either met with indifference or ridicule. "Who cares if we lose? It's just a game. Stop trying so hard. You don't *need* that win mount." Too bad SE's report system is totally useless and allows people to just lazily coast through matches.
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    Daddy Milkers
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by FenyxRising View Post
    The Mogtome event has created too many people who play lethargically in various roulettes, which by the way is against the ToS so thank me for informing you later.

    There's already a piece of content in the game that gives you 20% of the rewards if you play badly/AFK, and it's Chocobo racing, which happens if you get last.

    They need to do that for every part of the game, there's no reason for someone in Frontlines to do less than 100k damage to other players, just none. That means they were either AFK or just doing nothing the whole time. They should not get any reward, why should they get as much reward as the people who carried them to victory with 15+ kills ? Same for dungeons, if you do less than 3000 DPS in a Lv90 dungeon you should get no reward, because an auto-attack is 3000 damage, if you do less than that that means you're not even using auto attacks really.

    This isn't to punish players who are just bad but to dissuade players who ain't even playing. As long as you are trying you won't get no rewards don't worry.
    I've seen players who will just stand there and do nothing or just wait for the boss room to warp them in or - in some cases - just auto-attack the entire time.

    Problem is: a person in my old FC for example had a pretty severe disability that affected their decision making and reaction time which made them, um, not the greatest player. It was often quite frustrating but there aren't really any rules that say you have to be -good- so i try to not judge folk too harshly.

    however there does come a point where i want to take the people who wait at the doors in CT instead of killing trash and throw them off the top of said CT.
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    AnnRam's Avatar
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    Mint Goh
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 100
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    Tired of seeing people with 50k damage 0-9 in frontlines as DPS.
    I don't mind losing but at least you feel like everyone at least tried a bit.
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    Fyrebrand's Avatar
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    Friel Wyndor
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 97
    I think they should just auto-logout anyone who's been AFK for a significant amount of time, period. Doesn't matter if they're in a dungeon, PvP, or anything at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by FenyxRising View Post
    There's already a piece of content in the game that gives you 20% of the rewards if you play badly/AFK, and it's Chocobo racing, which happens if you get last.
    I mean, placement in Chocobo Racing isn't really based on level of effort, it's heavily weighted on your chocobo's stats and RNG with what items you get from boxes. And of course, you can be in the lead the whole race and then somebody uses that Meteor item and completely wipes you out.

    This isn't to punish players who are just bad but to dissuade players who ain't even playing. As long as you are trying you won't get no rewards don't worry.
    You literally created a thread just to say that pulling wall to wall in dungeons is the "minimum requirement" and that anyone who can't do it should only use Duty Support so they don't waste your time. So, you do want to punish players who "are just bad," and by keeping them out of live groups with real people, you seemingly want them to stay bad.
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    Player Reap00's Avatar
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    Riamara Skye
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    Marilith
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FenyxRising View Post
    The Mogtome event has created too many people who play lethargically in various roulettes, which by the way is against the ToS so thank me for informing you later.

    There's already a piece of content in the game that gives you 20% of the rewards if you play badly/AFK, and it's Chocobo racing, which happens if you get last.

    They need to do that for every part of the game, there's no reason for someone in Frontlines to do less than 100k damage to other players, just none. That means they were either AFK or just doing nothing the whole time. They should not get any reward, why should they get as much reward as the people who carried them to victory with 15+ kills ? Same for dungeons, if you do less than 3000 DPS in a Lv90 dungeon you should get no reward, because an auto-attack is 3000 damage, if you do less than that that means you're not even using auto attacks really.

    This isn't to punish players who are just bad but to dissuade players who ain't even playing. As long as you are trying you won't get no rewards don't worry.
    This is fairly comical but at least somewhat amusing. Thanks for the giggle.
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