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    This is like asking for a boost for those crafting achievements. It's just a mindless grind so you have something extra to do.
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    I'm looking at the Trust window right now on one of my alts that did not touch Trust at all in Shadowbringers or Endwalker.

    If I start with Mt. Gulg selected:

    Alphinaud - Academician level 71 ("insufficient level" error)
    Alisaie - Red Mage level 71 ("insufficient level" error)
    Thancred - Gunbreaker level 71 ("insufficient level" error)
    Urianger - Astrologian level 71 ("insufficient level" error)
    Y'shtola - Sorceress level 71 ("insufficient level" error)
    Ryne - Oracle of Light level 71 ("insufficient level" error)
    G'raha Tia - All-Rounder level 81

    If I switch the duty to Tower of Zot:

    Alphinaud - Sage level 71 ("insufficient level" error)
    Alisaie - Red Mage level 71 ("insufficient level" error)
    Thancred - Gunbreaker level 71 ("insufficient level" error)
    Urianger - Astrologian level 71 ("insufficient level" error)
    Y'shtola - Sorceress level 71 ("insufficient level" error)
    Estinien - Dragoon level 81
    G'raha Tia - All-Rounder level 81

    So they don't automatically get bumped to level 81 in Trust if you select an Endwalker duty.

    I think players are confusing Trust with Duty Support. They are now 2 separate systems serving a similar purpose.

    NPCs in Trust need to be leveled (starting level based on when they were added to Trust).

    NPCs in Duty Support do not need to be leveled - they are automatically synced to the appropriate level for the selected duty.

    When you interact with the NPCs at a dungeon entrance or the entrance portal, you're now interacting with Duty Support and not Trust. Even on this character that has all Trust NPCs completely leveled, interacting with the entrance portal only brings up the NPCs available through Duty support. If I go to Holminster Switch, I get to choose from Alphinaud, Alisaie, Lyna or G'raha.

    I guess Trust is nice if you want more control over which NPCs go with you into a dungeon but otherwise there's no need to level Trust anymore unless you want the titles.
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    I can’t promise I’m right on this, but I noticed when Endwalker dropped, only the trust peeps I had at cap were boosted to 81 (from 80). Everyone else (sorry Urianger, it was literally only him) was stuck at 75.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    I'm looking at the Trust window right now on one of my alts that did not touch Trust at all in Shadowbringers or Endwalker.

    If I start with Mt. Gulg selected:

    Alphinaud - Academician level 71 ("insufficient level" error)
    Alisaie - Red Mage level 71 ("insufficient level" error)
    Thancred - Gunbreaker level 71 ("insufficient level" error)
    Urianger - Astrologian level 71 ("insufficient level" error)
    Y'shtola - Sorceress level 71 ("insufficient level" error)
    Ryne - Oracle of Light level 71 ("insufficient level" error)
    G'raha Tia - All-Rounder level 81

    If I switch the duty to Tower of Zot:

    Alphinaud - Sage level 71 ("insufficient level" error)
    Alisaie - Red Mage level 71 ("insufficient level" error)
    Thancred - Gunbreaker level 71 ("insufficient level" error)
    Urianger - Astrologian level 71 ("insufficient level" error)
    Y'shtola - Sorceress level 71 ("insufficient level" error)
    Estinien - Dragoon level 81
    G'raha Tia - All-Rounder level 81

    So they don't automatically get bumped to level 81 in Trust if you select an Endwalker duty.

    I think players are confusing Trust with Duty Support. They are now 2 separate systems serving a similar purpose.

    NPCs in Trust need to be leveled (starting level based on when they were added to Trust).

    NPCs in Duty Support do not need to be leveled - they are automatically synced to the appropriate level for the selected duty.

    When you interact with the NPCs at a dungeon entrance or the entrance portal, you're now interacting with Duty Support and not Trust. Even on this character that has all Trust NPCs completely leveled, interacting with the entrance portal only brings up the NPCs available through Duty support. If I go to Holminster Switch, I get to choose from Alphinaud, Alisaie, Lyna or G'raha.

    I guess Trust is nice if you want more control over which NPCs go with you into a dungeon but otherwise there's no need to level Trust anymore unless you want the titles.
    No one said they get bumped up from not doing it at all to LVL 81. We're talking about once you get them up to 80.
    Unless they made it only a feature when the expansion comes out? Cuz I can guarantee, I never had to do LVL 80 with my trust.
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    Seems odd to bump them up a level immediately upon reaching 80. They could just allow further experience gain to reach 81 in the previous dungeons. It seemed logical to me that they were bumped up regardless of level.
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    At least leveling your Squadron and setting up tactics rewarded you with faster clears, Trusts are a waste of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaCa View Post
    At least leveling your Squadron and setting up tactics rewarded you with faster clears, Trusts are a waste of time.
    Trusts/Duty Support could be better but they aren't a complete waste of time. Can farm for glam/minions without having to share loot rolls (Dead Ends too many times now and I just know, the one time it drops, it will be in a roulette or something and someone else will get the roll). And, in OCE, can at least run those dungeons whenever you want, cause good luck doing any particular dungeon at 10am NZT.

    But yea, I wish they had expanded more on squadrons instead.
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    I think their reasoning was that 80-81 is a EW level, needing EW amounts of exp but you can only do ShB dungeons to get there... which might take too long

    They will probably make level 90 also automatically forward to 91
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    I think the reason is more SE knows people would be pissed if a new expansion came out and you literally couldn't use trust on new content until you run the previous expansion dungeon 3 times. Skipping the lvl makes it so it can stay in line with the actual lvling content.
    Goes in line with the whole respect peoples time thing everyone always talks about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaCa View Post
    At least leveling your Squadron and setting up tactics rewarded you with faster clears, Trusts are a waste of time.
    And with squadrons you could level with missions and training. With trusts it's just repeat dungeon until they are high enough for the next dungeon and repeat that. Sure you can go and do lower level dungeons but that just means doing more.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrysOCE View Post
    Trusts/Duty Support could be better but they aren't a complete waste of time. Can farm for glam/minions without having to share loot rolls (Dead Ends too many times now and I just know, the one time it drops, it will be in a roulette or something and someone else will get the roll). And, in OCE, can at least run those dungeons whenever you want, cause good luck doing any particular dungeon at 10am NZT.

    But yea, I wish they had expanded more on squadrons instead.
    That is nice after you have them leveled. I was farming The Qitana Ravel for glams and it got a lot of them a few levels but obviously Estinien isn't getting anything so I have to do just as much grinding on EW dungeons to catch him up and at this point I'll probably be leveling him while everyone else is maxed.

    They should have just expanded Squadrons to include the scions and more dungeons, maybe updated the AI a bit.
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