So i have been doing CC and AV everyday for the last 2 weeks

[Mikita]

Darklight is currently the best gear in the game and has definitely given people something to work for. At least they drop into the loot list so we can pass them to people who can use them (unlike primal weapons).

Being luck based is rough, especially when the stars never align for you. But there is something to be said for the joy of finally getting the piece you want. And if the drop rates were higher then pretty soon most people would be running around in full Darklight gear and there would be nothing special about it.

Who knows what the timers are like. But we got the Heavy Darklight Flanchard on our very first Cutter's Cry win, and there were a lot of other parties there at the time. Beginner's luck?

[Hikozaemon]

Darklight is currently the best gear in the game and has definitely given people something to work for. At least they drop into the loot list so we can pass them to people who can use them (unlike primal weapons).

Being luck based is rough, especially when the stars never align for you. But there is something to be said for the joy of finally getting the piece you want. And if the drop rates were higher then pretty soon most people would be running around in full Darklight gear and there would be nothing special about it.

Who knows what the timers are like. But we got the Heavy Darklight Flanchard on our very first Cutter's Cry win, and there were a lot of other parties there at the time. Beginner's luck?

All darklight gear is not the best in the game in fact many pieces are complete ass and i wouldnt wear them even if i could gear swap. the Entire mage set is junk no self respecting whm or blm would dare wear that crap over the better easier to obtain double/tripple melds or even af pieces tbh. And no sane person would think its cool and enjoyable to do dozens of runs and get no drop what so ever. The 20 people on this forum that like to play ff14 18hours a day and live off there parents need to get a real job and real life and realize its not fun to play a time sink its fun to play a game thats rewarding and "FUN!" At least the combat system is finally fixed now the instance/gear development departments need to get there heads outa there asses.



BTW.... im up to liek 20 ifrits canes about a dozen bows/lances a few fists still no Ifrits axe 100s of kills later awesome droprates! great system!

[Mikita]

All darklight gear is not the best in the game in fact many pieces are complete ass and i wouldnt wear them even if i could gear swap. the Entire mage set is junk no self respecting whm or blm would dare wear that crap over the better easier to obtain double/tripple melds or even af pieces tbh.

Okay. I was talking more about dropped items than multiple meld materia... which by the way is also still largely luck based with pretty poor odds.

The Darklight Gloves are not bad for mages. Too bad they look so out of place on a White Mage.

And no sane person would think its cool and enjoyable to do dozens of runs and get no drop what so ever.

There are actually plenty of drops for clearing and even some drops along the way. People who want Darklight gear are just going for a very specific, very rare set of equipment.

Sure it's frustrating to do it so many times and not get what you want.

But no one is forcing you to do it.

Do it if you think it's fun and/or worthwhile. Otherwise stop.

[Rogue]

But no one is forcing you to do it.

Do it if you think it's fun and/or worthwhile. Otherwise stop.

this is a little short sighted, do you think it is reasonable to lose subs because your game is boring?

[Mikita]

this is a little short sighted, do you think it is reasonable to lose subs because your game is boring?

Sure. That's the way the free market works.

You have the right to vote with your wallet.
If you think this game is boring then you don't have to pay to play.

I also think the drop rate on a lot of these items is abysmally low. I would like to have some of the Darklight items also. But I understand that they are exceptionally rare and there is luck involved in getting them, so I don't expect that I should be rewarded after fighting through CC or AV any set number of times.

To reiterate what Asiaine said:
"Is this an activity (raid) that I have fun doing? If so, do it. If not, go do something else.
The reward you get at the end of the day should be just that... a reward (not payment)."

[Rogue]

Sure. That's the way the free market works.

You have the right to vote with your wallet.
If you think this game is boring then you don't have to pay to play.

yes and in the free market the sellers cater to the buyers..

you cant seem to grasp the concept that it is in SE's interest to make a fun and exciting non-repetitive video game.. as rediculous as that sounds... >.>

[Asiaine]

yes and in the free market the sellers cater to the buyers..

you cant seem to grasp the concept that it is in SE's interest to make a fun and exciting non-repetitive video game.. as rediculous as that sounds... >.>

At the risk of being Ms. Pendantic:

It is in SE's interest to make gil ^.^;


Please keep in mind the following key things:
1) What one person considers fun may not be considered fun by an other. So SE has to decide whose fun should be addressed.
2) What one person wants NOW may actually be decremental to SE in the long run, so SE has to balance instant gratification versus long time satisfaction.

For example:
Getting all DL gear right away may make a group of people happy. Then they will go away for a few months until new content appears. If this repeats, after a year this group of people may just loose interest in staying. This does not benefit SE.

Getting all DL gear slowly may make a group of people unhappy. They will post their unhappyness on the lodestone, and a portion of those may go away.

SE then must make a decision:
How many players will leave if things are easy, and how many will leave if it is hard. If it turns out that 0.1% of the population will leave if DL gear is incredibly hard to get, but 5% of the population would leave if DL gear is easy to get, SE will choose to forfit the 0.1% of the population.

(Keep in mind as well, there is no known formula that will work to keep EVERYONE happy... if you do find it, then please let the world know ^.^)

[Holyomen]

this is a little short sighted, do you think it is reasonable to lose subs because your game is boring?

"They chose to die, because they had hope."
- Lady Yunalesca

[Tutu]

Luck Based and some even just went in onces and get their DL lol ...

Darklight is currently the best gear in the game and has definitely given people something to work for. At least they drop into the loot list so we can pass them to people who can use them (unlike primal weapons).

Being luck based is rough, especially when the stars never align for you. But there is something to be said for the joy of finally getting the piece you want. And if the drop rates were higher then pretty soon most people would be running around in full Darklight gear and there would be nothing special about it.

Who knows what the timers are like. But we got the Heavy Darklight Flanchard on our very first Cutter's Cry win, and there were a lot of other parties there at the time. Beginner's luck?