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  1. #301
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    bro this is A VIDEO GAME FORUM

    mfw "olive branch", "peaceful agreement", "blame me for the conflict"

    LMAO
    I swear to god, I remember the same thing happened with Renalt and Aveyond, Renalt was like "we can make peace only if you agree to stop harassing people" or something along those lines

    bro ?

    lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Only if you intend to jump into Savage the first few weeks of release. Otherwise you can wait until you've grabbed some pieces from Normal plus what you can buy with the weekly capped tomestones. By the time you can get your first weapon using the tokens from Normal (yes, 7 weeks, I know), you shouldn't need crafted gear anymore.
    I can only assume this is not a serious post. Everything else would make me lose braincells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    If you didnt read it, how would you know?

    You seriously cant read half a page of text?

    Good lord, wait till you decide to pursue a degree..half a page is NOTHING compared to whats waiting. What will you do when a lecturer tells you to read three full chapters by the end of the week?

    Tell them "too long didnt read'?? Ask them for the TL : DR version? Tell them its hard to read "walls of text"? That wont get you far.

    Oh and yeah..where I am now?

    You will be one day.

    You will be asking yourself why you are committing so much time and effort ingame when you can think of a dozen other things youd rather do with that time. Or you wont have the time anymore when real life and responsibility comes knocking.

    Family, kids, work, there wont be enough hours in the day anymore. You will blink , look up and realise its three weeks later...and wonder where the time went. Your raid static will tell you when and where the next run is..and you will see you dont have the time. Or you are just too damned tired. Or you are due back onshift in ten hours and you need to sleep.

    Or you will simply realise that whiist it seemed like fun at the time, its a never ending hamster wheel you just dont want to run any more.

    So: here is a fact you may one day remember.

    One day? You will be me.

    So enjoy it while it lasts, my friend.

    It wont forever.
    Sympathy - definitely get where you're coming from with the R/L aspect.
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  4. #304
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    wait till you decide to pursue a degree
    you realize people go to college at 18 these days???? and most people here are already over 18??? so they either already finished college or don't plan to?? you seriously one-upping someone by invoking "degree"

    my god pursuing a degree isn't anything special in 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    when a lecturer tells you to read three full chapters by the end of the week?
    i read dozens of math and CS papers every week for my job, and in my ug i was reading entire books in a week. the difference is dear 79 year old, they don't contain nonsense
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    Last edited by Koros; 08-12-2023 at 09:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    If you didnt read it, how would you know?

    You seriously cant read half a page of text?

    Good lord, wait till you decide to pursue a degree..half a page is NOTHING compared to whats waiting. What will you do when a lecturer tells you to read three full chapters by the end of the week?

    Tell them "too long didnt read'?? Ask them for the TL : DR version? Tell them its hard to read "walls of text"? That wont get you far.

    Oh and yeah..where I am now?

    You will be one day.

    You will be asking yourself why you are committing so much time and effort ingame when you can think of a dozen other things youd rather do with that time. Or you wont have the time anymore when real life and responsibility comes knocking.

    Family, kids, work, there wont be enough hours in the day anymore. You will blink , look up and realise its three weeks later...and wonder where the time went. Your raid static will tell you when and where the next run is..and you will see you dont have the time. Or you are just too damned tired. Or you are due back onshift in ten hours and you need to sleep.

    Or you will simply realise that whiist it seemed like fun at the time, its a never ending hamster wheel you just dont want to run any more.

    So: here is a fact you may one day remember.

    One day? You will be me.

    So enjoy it while it lasts, my friend.

    It wont forever.
    The key is how many words are just utter filler, and how much substance you actually get for the words being detailed. Reading pages is easy work, reading books is easy work if they are well authored. People aren't going to treat an academic report, or a well established book with the same respect as padding words on a forum.

    At least when you're reading academic journals, reports, dissertations, surveys etc., - Most of them have the common courtesy of not bleeding your time with needless fluff. There is a thing called padding wordcounts with unnecessary clauses and conjunctive adverbs. The chances are if you're placed in a situation like this then it doesn't exactly bring credibility to the research, and thus not worth reading in the first place. - But generally people with a PhD have a higher bar for writing and substance than your average people or people that sit regular on a forum.

    Not all writing is weighted the same. I'm certainly not going onto a forum and expecting the same level of insight as to what I would if I were to read a paper on IEEE Xplore.
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  6. #306
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    you realize people go to college at 18 these days?
    People go to university at any age. Dear dear me we are behind the times arent we....

    ??? and most people here are already over 18??? so they either already finished college or don't plan to?
    ...you never finish learning, and if you think that once you finish that degree you never go back..well....thats a you issue.

    Do try and keep up?

    Kaurhz perhaps. But Im not the one who says that reading half a page of text is "hard".

    i read dozens of math and CS papers every week for my job, and in my ug i was reading entire books in a week.
    Which then begs the question of what it is you are trying to accomplish here.
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    Last edited by VelKallor; 08-12-2023 at 11:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    People go to university at any age. Dear dear me we are behind the times arent we....



    ...you never finish learning, and if you think that once you finish that degree you never go back..well....thats a you issue.

    Do try and keep up?

    Kaurhz perhaps. But Im not the one who says that reading half a page of text is "hard".



    Which then begs the question of what it is you are trying to accomplish here.
    It doesn't really matter who is saying it. Cumbersome writing does exist, and like the writing, it is cumbersome to read. Especially so when no effort is made to actually make a point, and instead just focussing on back-and-forth stints to win an argument on a forum, or just to needlessly bloat the text to try and be perceived as clever, insightful or intelligent. Reading half a page of needless walls of text is difficult, if it is taking that entire length to make a point that can be summarised in under 20 words.

    I will say, you were the one who tried to equivocate it with something like a degree. - To iterate and summarise the point... It is not the length of the content you're reading that makes it difficult but the substance of that content. Hence cumbersome.

    You would think that someone reading dozens of papers in their field or interdisciplinary topics does so to learn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Do try and keep up?
    You are the only one who needs to keep up if you finished your first degree at 83 years old

    And no, normal people don't go back to college to learn unless you're pursuing a PhD. Normal people LEARN TO LEARN. If you need to take a college class to learn anything after your degree you are just slow lmao. Most of us are capable of learning by reading journal articles, reading textbooks, watching tutorials, repetition, etc. by ourselves.

    Just to be clear, the people I know who are pursuing a second PhD: they are all lemons. Your first degree should equip you with everything you need to succeed at the appropriate level (i.e. bachelor's for most work, PhD for research work). If you can't, then it's a literal skill issue.
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    Last edited by Koros; 08-13-2023 at 12:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    If you didnt read it, how would you know?

    You seriously cant read half a page of text?

    Good lord, wait till you decide to pursue a degree..half a page is NOTHING compared to whats waiting. What will you do when a lecturer tells you to read three full chapters by the end of the week?

    Tell them "too long didnt read'?? Ask them for the TL : DR version? Tell them its hard to read "walls of text"? That wont get you far.

    Oh and yeah..where I am now?

    You will be one day.

    You will be asking yourself why you are committing so much time and effort ingame when you can think of a dozen other things youd rather do with that time. Or you wont have the time anymore when real life and responsibility comes knocking.

    Family, kids, work, there wont be enough hours in the day anymore. You will blink , look up and realise its three weeks later...and wonder where the time went. Your raid static will tell you when and where the next run is..and you will see you dont have the time. Or you are just too damned tired. Or you are due back onshift in ten hours and you need to sleep.

    Or you will simply realise that whiist it seemed like fun at the time, its a never ending hamster wheel you just dont want to run any more.

    So: here is a fact you may one day remember.

    One day? You will be me.

    So enjoy it while it lasts, my friend.

    It wont forever.
    I've gone to university. I have a master's degree, in English and German. Long text isn't a sign of being smart, or good. If your text is just pointless filler, then it needs to be shortened. Yes, I realise that most academic texts are exactly that, but that doesn't mean they should be. Making research papers insanely complicated to read is helping nobody.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    A shill would be posting in the forums of other games, bashing those games as terrible while trying to talk about this other great game that everyone should go play.
    I'm not against what you are saying in general and i think it's unfair people call you a shill, but according to cambridge, being negative about competition is not a necessary requirement of a shill:

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic.../english/shill

    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    If you didnt read it, how would you know?
    AwesomeJr44 complained about you writing a lot of text. I could not find anything suggestion she didn't read all of it. You assume your own implacations and facts, as usual. If i can be as agist and passive aggressive as you are with your weird degree rant: If you have that bad understanding of the texts that are presented to you, like you have shown on this forum multiple times and are of a certain age, than maybe ask a doctor to check if you have dementia.
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    Will put you on ignore if you can't form a logical argument but argue nonetheless

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