Lamest Moonfire Faire by far

[Kes13a]

just did the event. I wouldnt class it the lamest, it was okay. the rewards are not something I will EVER wear, but that happens.

overall, it was what I expected a moonfire faire to be, nothing major or life changing, like always.

[Renathras]

Renrathras and going into literally every subforum writing an essay on his opinion then getting angry when other people have the gall to disagree with him

Where have I ever said that people can't disagree with me? I get angry with bullying and namecalling, not disagreement. Stoic disagreement confuses me (when people don't actually counter arguments), but when discussing matters of outright opinion, I have no issue with that.

He is fine to have differing opinions and people shouldn’t have insulted him but now it’s just gone total 180 where he absolutely refuses to ever admit he is wrong

I literally admitted to being wrong in a thread you were in last week! I do it whenever someone outright proves that I'm wrong about something. You can't get mad at me for something when I'm doing the opposite of what you claim.

he has functionally destroyed the healer subforum because nobody can discuss anything without him brigading it and there is a few people on the healer subforum he actively attempts to gaslight

You realize I'm the one that starts a good chunk of the threads there, and in every one, get attacked, right? Even ForsakenRoe pointed out there'd be very little discussion in there without me starting and engaging in it with people. I also don't attempt to gaslight anyone. I'm the victim of gaslighting - such as what you just now did.

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Case in point:

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[Renathras]

It's more like people are up in arms when he dares to have different opinions. Like some other users in subforum have pointed out, people threw insults at him first, and he got called out when he defended himself for it

This. Thank you.

I will counter when attacked. I'm generally not the first person to throw any insults or names. And often, I try to avoid them even when subjected to them, and I'm almost always the first one that tries to walk away from a fight once one starts up. I'm also both consistent in my views and at not joining in on bullying and dogpiling but calling it out when it happens to others - which almost always turns the ire of the bullies on me instead. But hey, if I can take a bullet for someone, I can take a few nasty bully insults.

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He is fine to have differing opinions and people shouldn’t have insulted him but now it’s just gone total 180 where he absolutely refuses to ever admit he is wrong and will write endless walls of text about it, he has functionally destroyed the healer subforum because nobody can discuss anything without him brigading it and there is a few people on the healer subforum he actively attempts to gaslight

At this point I don’t really care about who said what first, his actions are becoming a problem

Have you ever considered the two are connected?

Me getting insulted in every discussion by people who don't want to deal with my arguments leads to a toxic environment that doesn't allow for good discussion. Further, it means that I generally can't back down from arguments because that is "a sign of weakness" that gets pounced on even more (never mind that the things I don't back down on are generally matters of opinion or difference in how we define things, not things I'm abjectly wrong on anyway), with anything I admit to being wrong on brought up again and again and used as a cudgel against me in other, completely unrelated arguments to discredit literally anytihng, and despite the fact that I haven't ever done this to any of YOU who admitted to being wrong about things.

Maybe if that wasn't happening, it would lead to more productive discussions.

then report him, all of his posts

I've noticed a number of my posts, even entirely benign ones, disappearing lately.

After you gave Renault such a hard time over mass reporting people's posts, it's kind of strange to see you doing it with your alt army...but then again, principles and self-consistency aren't a thing you have, are they, Titenmen?

[Koros]

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[Nebelheim]

Where have I ever said that people can't disagree with me? I get angry with bullying and namecalling, not disagreement. Stoic disagreement confuses me (when people don't actually counter arguments), but when discussing matters of outright opinion, I have no issue with that.

Then why haven't you called out atelier when there the one who came in first and being an aggressor but call me out for not calling out people you don't like instead. You sided with an aggressor in the thread and treated me stormpeaks and a few others as wrongdoers in this thread. Now it seems you randomly dislike me because i defended stormpeaks when atelier were the aggressor and didn't call out people you have some vendetta with.

[Renathras]

Then why haven't you called out atelier when there the one who came in first and being an aggressor but call me out for not calling out people you don't like instead. You sided with an aggressor in the thread and treated me stormpeaks and a few others as wrongdoers in this thread.

Because I call people out for bulling and I call people out for feigning neutrality so they can help with dogpiles.

I also didn't get onto you for "not calling out people (I) don't like". I don't know Atelier. As I said, I disagree with them all the time in other threads. They aren't a person I like. All I was doing was holding you to your own standard, and you have thus far refused to be consistent with your own standard.

The reason I'm treating Stormpeaks and AwesomeJr as bad guys is because they have been. Storm likes feigning innocence but was kind of a terror around here, though she seems to now be being a lot better and just recently (as in, last night) admitted to going through some rough stuff and acting bad here due to that, but that she's trying to stop. Hence I'm not treating her that way at this point unless she instigates.

Awesome I have a real problem with because she bought a lie about me and has decided it's a cudgel she can keep bringing up in thread after thread, when I show her it's a lie she can just say my post was too long to read and pretend she's still justified in doing so. But, note the above post, I'm trying a different tactic of making a short post that she CAN read explaining the situation, and we'll see if she finds that more agreeable.

As to you: I wasn't attacking you. I was honestly just hoping you actually had a standard that you didn't like people being mean to others and that you would call people out on it when they were doing it. But given you've sided with the people doing it rather than calling them out, it seems sadly you don't hold that as an actual principle... I was hoping you did, but I was mistaken. So I won't ask you to be consistent with a principle you don't hold. Have a good one. o/

[Nebelheim]

Because I call people out for bulling and I call people out for feigning neutrality so they can help with dogpiles.

I also didn't get onto you for "not calling out people (I) don't like". I don't know Atelier. As I said, I disagree with them all the time in other threads. They aren't a person I like. All I was doing was holding you to your own standard, and you have thus far refused to be consistent with your own standard.

The reason I'm treating Stormpeaks and AwesomeJr as bad guys is because they have been. Storm likes feigning innocence but was kind of a terror around here, though she seems to now be being a lot better and just recently (as in, last night) admitted to going through some rough stuff and acting bad here due to that, but that she's trying to stop. Hence I'm not treating her that way at this point unless she instigates.

Awesome I have a real problem with because she bought a lie about me and has decided it's a cudgel she can keep bringing up in thread after thread, when I show her it's a lie she can just say my post was too long to read and pretend she's still justified in doing so. But, note the above post, I'm trying a different tactic of making a short post that she CAN read explaining the situation, and we'll see if she finds that more agreeable.

As to you: I wasn't attacking you. I was honestly just hoping you actually had a standard that you didn't like people being mean to others and that you would call people out on it when they were doing it. But given you've sided with the people doing it rather than calling them out, it seems sadly you don't hold that as an actual principle... I was hoping you did, but I was mistaken. So I won't ask you to be consistent with a principle you don't hold. Have a good one. o/

I just dont know what awesomejr koros stormpeaks and titanmen has to do with asking why atelier jumps in threads and randomly insults people with different opinions and name calls them and comes across as always angry though. All i did was ask why they jump into threads and insult and get angry towards people with differing opinions.

[AwesomeJr44]

Dude, so far you have done the following:

1) Came into a thread about a month(?) ago and you instantly were aggressive to me even though I had no idea who you were.

2) Came into multiple threads since then, being hyper aggressive to both me and other people. (not Koros/Stormpeaks)

3) You were asked to stop writing fluff-filled essays with unnecessary paragraphs for every post on multiple occasions and you have continued to.

4) Keeping this 'drama' alive by continuing to enter threads whining about it when no one was talking about it.

5) Whining about people in this thread not adhering to your false idea of neutrality because they wouldn't call out the people you wanted them to.

Thus I told you to grow up and fix the very apparent chip on your shoulder. Look, I don't give a damn whether you think you were right or wrong, please go take a chill pill. You've been in desperate need of one for a long while.

You want this to end? Let it go.

[EZGIL]

Lame?

this thread is lame.

give me my time back.

[Thurmnmurmn]

Renathras, if you've written novels over and over again and nothing's changing, maybe it's time for you to realize that either no one cares or you're wrong. Either way, probably a good idea for your own blood pressure to drop this crusade you're on.

Does it matter that someone insulted you on the internet? Not one bit. Let it go.