Square Enix, it's time to come clean about your plans for the future

[Atelier-Bagur]

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Its not really anything grandiose as having some savior complex. I suppose the way I describe things it feels that way but its mostly an observation Ive been seeing with a lot of MMO communities where they demand change but are very much complacent whether it be out of obligation or because they're actually not as bothered. I guess I pretty much fall into this category, but I also know personally despite my criticisms I still find FFXIV to be an enjoyable time waster. However from what Ive seen from people and from how they act and post and discuss the game, to me it feels like some genuinely just dont like this game like at all. The negatives outweigh the positives for them and this is where you should ask yourself if the sub is even worth keeping. At the very least Ive seen people actually follow up on leaving the game because of their strong dissatisfaction most recently.

I mostly regard that "just unsub" advice to people whom are very much unhappy to what this game is now. Its something you can easily tell if you pay attention to the daily threads and posts they make where there's rarely if not ever an ounce of positive or constructive feedback. Its easy to call them a troll and that could certainly well be the case but if you cant trust somebody who's just overly positive and blind about the game....then why would you trust somebody who's overly negative and stubborn about the game as well?

I still firmly believe of just providing feedback. Somebody gotta still like the game enough to stay and voice their concerns at the end of the day otherwise how would the devs know what to fix? We cant forget that its thanks to those dedicated people on copium during the 1.0 days that 2.0 even happened, but it was also thanks to the mass of people who voted with their money to stop playing FFXIV that help drive SE to improve the game as well.

tl;dr we need both kinds of people in order to help improve the game. So if anybody ever fits in either criteria that Ive listed then do what you gotta do. You pay to play the game if its good to you, you stop playing and paying if the game is just outright bad.

[Atelier-Bagur]

It very much DOES matter. If they're working on other games, then it's cue for all of us to unsub because it will only mean that 7.x will deliver even less content.

That cue to unsub popped once post-Heavensward came abound and some of CBUIII's core members started working on FFXVI.

[Atelier-Bagur]

And if you need to have an example to why "just unsub" if you're just wholefully unsatisfied with the state of the game. Look at World of Warcraft during Shadowlands where people just finally got fed up with the expansion and migrated to other MMOs forcing Blizzard to finally make some wanted changes to the game in the last patch for it and in Dragonflight.

[ChonkGoblinSuprem]

The point of FATEs is to have emergent open world engagements that allow for ad-hoc temporary cooperative relationships between players as we otherwise chug along through otherwise solo content. Not everything needs to be farmable in perpetuity to be a valid and useful piece of gameplay.

[Raven2014]

If CBU3 had started working on the next MMO ... that's a good thing. As much as I like FF14, I hope I won't be playing it still in another 10 years, and very much want to try to play something new. The issue is SE is currently "the only" company that I have any faith in producing and maintaining a decent MMO long term.

FF14 eventually will buckle under its own weight. For example, in 10 years we will have at least 8 more classes, I don't see how feasible, or at least, business feasible to maintain that kind of balancing. The game obvious also have some hardwall that I don't think will be possible to overcome. I think I can still play video game for another 25-30 years, I'm not just looking at what MMO I have to play in the next 5 years, but 10 and beyond, and I hope it won't still be FF14. And if the price to have the next FFMMO is to have less content for FF14, that's the price I'm happy to pay.

Also, my status of sub or unsub has nothing to do with "who" SE put on the game, although there maybe some correlation. But ultimately I sub because there are things I want to play, luckily, the type of content I enjoy in FF14 seem to be the bread and butter of the game, so I'm still good.

[Kes13a]

It very much DOES matter. If they're working on other games, then it's cue for all of us to unsub because it will only mean that 7.x will deliver even less content.

here's a news flash for you....

chances are they are ALWAYS working on other games. Yoshi said he would like do more mainline Final Fantasy games. is that clear enough for you? it is clear that in his perspective, he currently has enough bandwidth to do so with the teams he has under him. Final Fantasy may be the only horse in your stable, but he has a couple more, and seems to think that he can fit more in.

oh, by the way, "all of us" are not going to unsubscribe just because you dislike what they are working on. unsurprisingly, we have minds of our own ^^

[Atelier-Bagur]

here's a news flash for you....

chances are they are ALWAYS working on other games. Yoshi said he would like do more mainline Final Fantasy games. is that clear enough for you? it is clear that in his perspective, he currently has enough bandwidth to do so with the teams he has under him. Final Fantasy may be the only horse in your stable, but he has a couple more, and seems to think that he can fit more in.

oh, by the way, "all of us" are not going to unsubscribe just because you dislike what they are working on. unsurprisingly, we have minds of our own ^^

I mean, its a pretty common thing in the gaming industry especially when you're part of a company that produces many games. People juggle multiple projects. This was even more so the case back during the early days of gaming where just in the lifespan of 6 or so years during the SNES and PS1 era we had 6 FF games all mostly coming from the same group of people working on them.

Its just blatant ignorace to believe that any development studio just sticks to one game project at a time. Thats not how the business works and has never been this way. You wont get anything done or released if you just stick to one game at a time.

Fun Fact - Did you know FFXI's development started back in 1999? Guess what Sakaguchi and some of his team members also worked and released in between that time frame to 2001; yeah FFIX and FFX. Again, game developers juggle multiple projects all the time.

[Jojoya]

It very much DOES matter. If they're working on other games, then it's cue for all of us to unsub because it will only mean that 7.x will deliver even less content.

So then why haven't you unsubbed yet to set the example?

[Aword3213]

So then why haven't you unsubbed yet to set the example?

All bark, no bite

Like the ceremonious returns of people, who often announced their cancellation of subs, we keep witnessing

[Rolder50]

And if you need to have an example to why "just unsub" if you're just wholefully unsatisfied with the state of the game. Look at World of Warcraft during Shadowlands where people just finally got fed up with the expansion and migrated to other MMOs forcing Blizzard to finally make some wanted changes to the game in the last patch for it and in Dragonflight.

I'm not sure it would be as effective here, as there are a large number of players who would stay subbed no matter how terrible the game is. The Yoshi-P cult of personality is strong.