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    Nebelheim's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Because everything is fair share of criticism? Also so it's OK for Stormpeaks, AwesomeJr, Koros etc to respond and insult other posters directly all the time but when I do it, all of a sudden Im the villian?
    So you think that because they insult people that its ok for you to come into threads angry and insult people you disagree with. If the things you disagree with makes you so angry to the point of insulting others maybe its time to take a break from the forums. I think them insulting others also makes them horrible but so far i haven't been insulted by them as i have from you when i never done anything to you to warrant being insulted in previous threads. All i did was mention wanting grinds and mention features ff14 could bring from ff11 only to be attacked and treated as a troll by you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebelheim View Post
    So you think that because they insult people that its ok for you to come into threads angry and insult people you disagree with. If the things you disagree with makes you so angry to the point of insulting others maybe its time to take a break from the forums. I think them insulting others also makes them horrible but so far i haven't been insulted by them as i have from you when i never done anything to you to warrant being insulted in previous threads. All i did was mention wanting grinds and mention features ff14 could bring from ff11 only to be attacked and treated as a troll by you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    So because others do it, it's ok for you to do it?
    Not a good take mate.
    I'm not defending them doing it either.
    I disagree with Atelier's takes on Eureka/Bozja (I happen to love them), but she's right on this one.

    I always find it odd when people attack anyone BUT Storm/Aesome/Kiros-Titan-altarmy, then say "I'm not defending them doing it either"; yes, but you aren't CALLING THEM OUT FOR IT, either. When you call out only one side of a discussion, you are, whether you intend or not, putting your thumb on the scale and implicitly supporting the other side. If you meant that it's bad when people do it, you need to call out EVERYONE doing it, otherwise you're offering aid to one side at the expense of the other. I'd be like if there were two opposing politicians that committed the same crime, but one is prosecuted and the other isn't even indicted. That influences their election because it gives one side a talking point ("My opponent is such a bad lawbreaker!") that can be used to influence neutral people making up their minds between the two.

    If you're going to call out people for doing a thing, don't stop short only calling out one side, much less so directly and personally.

    EDIT:

    This event was so fun! The quest was pretty short but the cameos were nice, and the armor looks amazing. Can do all kinds of themed glamours with it. Been wanting something like the armor from the revolution planet (the one in one of the first level 90 dungeons that also have the Citizens and Freedom Fighter guys take part in the Lopporit Tribal quests), and this is kind of like that. Could see a dark gray dye of this working fantastic with some SGE and MCH glams to make a really cool look.

    Love this reward so much more than the stupid bathing suits we have like 20 of at this point that are mostly all the same. I don't mind new swimwear from time, but most of what we've gotten is all the same other than the board shorts, and most of the random robes and stuff I'm never going to wear. At least this suit I could see some fun glams for.

    And the jumping puzzle is back and pretty fun and challenging. Give me some Kugane PTSD, but was still a blast.

    This is probably one of the best Moonfire Faires we've ever had. Love it!
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    Last edited by Renathras; 08-11-2023 at 05:13 AM. Reason: Marked with EDIT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    This event was so fun! The quest was pretty short but the cameos were nice, and the armor looks amazing. Can do all kinds of themed glamours with it. Been wanting something like the armor from the revolution planet (the one in one of the first level 90 dungeons that also have the Citizens and Freedom Fighter guys take part in the Lopporit Tribal quests), and this is kind of like that. Could see a dark gray dye of this working fantastic with some SGE and MCH glams to make a really cool look.
    I have to wonder what kind of themed glamours you're going to do with it when the whole thing is a one piece outfit. The full set just in different colors?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    I have to wonder what kind of themed glamours you're going to do with it when the whole thing is a one piece outfit. The full set just in different colors?
    I'll just slap the helmet on all of my glamours, even if it doesn't fit at all. There we go, so many themed glamours!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    I have to wonder what kind of themed glamours you're going to do with it when the whole thing is a one piece outfit. The full set just in different colors?
    Is this a real question?

    Literally anything you want to do in a sci-fi or power armor aesthetic. We have a lot of techy weapons and at least two (MCH and SGE) and arguably three (GNB) sci-fi/tech aesthetic Jobs for them. I do the same thing with a SGE glam of the High Allegan healing set. (This helmet, btw, goes well with that set).

    I get a lot of people are pissy about literally EVERYTHING the game does now, and I get some people (who aren't usual members of the doomium brigade themselves) do tend to complain about smaller things they don't like...but you not liking something doesn't mean no one can like it. This community and Humans in general are ridiculously creative and artistic. If you can't find SOMEthing to do with this armor or helmet, alone or together, that's a you issue, not an everyone else issue or a game issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    If you can't find SOMEthing to do with this armor or helmet, alone or together, that's a you issue, not an everyone else issue or a game issue.
    Nah, the suit should have been separated as a proper set.
    I could perfectly want just the chest and legs, it would fit a lot of gloves and boots but no, one piece suit.

    I honestly think is just lazy work, instead of coding 5 items they just did 2.
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    "The will of my friends has etched into my heart, and now ill transform this infinite darkness into eternal light
    Unmatched in heaven and earth, one body and one soul that challenge the gods!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    I always find it odd when people attack anyone BUT Storm/Aesome/Kiros-Titan-altarmy, then say "I'm not defending them doing it either"; yes, but you aren't CALLING THEM OUT FOR IT, either.
    Boo hoo, you got roasted once by Titanmen for making a stupid argument, and now you have a massive chip on your shoulder. Get in line buddy, you're not the only one on the internet that's ever gotten heat. Keep crying and write me a book about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    Boo hoo, you got roasted once by Titanmen for making a stupid argument, and now you have a massive chip on your shoulder. Get in line buddy, you're not the only one on the internet that's ever gotten heat. Keep crying and write me a book about it.

    I don't know why they think i need to call you and those others out when i had issues with atelier when i recently started posting and i don't fully keep up to date on who the forums considers as trolls or keep a list of people who supposedly go around insulting people. I called out atelier simply because as soon as i started posting on the forums again it was like i was a target of them similar to others they target. And they been targeting others recently in other threads for simply having different opinions and getting unnecessarily angry.
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    Last edited by Nebelheim; 08-11-2023 at 07:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    By "bad take" and "Koros mocked him for it", AwesomeJr means "Renathras accurately explained something, Koros quoted him, but removed part of the quote to make it wrong, mocked him for it, started a thread mocking him for it by posting the "quote", encouraged others to mock him for it, got about ten people to harass him across multiple threads for over a week, brought it up in multiple threads, never once admitting to misquoting/lying and harassment, then put the "quote" in his signature and started posting it all over the forum to the point it was bad enough the devs banned that particular account of his."
    This is such a perversion of the truth that it's funny to think of how many leaps of logic you'd have to do to get there.

    Thanks for the book though, t'was a good read.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    And you fail to realize I roasted him, too - several times, without lying or harassing - you just weren't interested in seeing your hero roasted and so have blocked that out of your mind.
    You didn't roast him because your attempts at doing so were so pathetic that they were more sad than funny.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    HELL YES I will come to their defense and call out people dogpiling and harassing them, or people taking one side while pretending/feigning neutrality.
    Dude, you have such a massive chip on your shoulder. It's actually insane.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Even now, Nebelheim could call you out and say what you're doing is wrong instead of agreeing to it.
    They aren't obligated to say anything. Screw off with this forced 'neutrality' nonsense. (I put 'neutrality' in quotes because if someone calls you out, you cry and write a book about it) You're just upset that they didn't call out the people you wanted them to.
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    Last edited by AwesomeJr44; 08-11-2023 at 10:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    And then, you write off any of me presenting the truth to you as "a book" post that you mock.
    Stop writing essays to try and sound smart then. You're not being thorough, you could get the same points across with the same clarity with less than half the words you use in most cases. Less is more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Even if you thought he was right, there should have been a point where you said, "Okay, enough's enough.
    If you stopped whining over imagined past grievances perhaps I would. But you keep popping up and being an annoyance. Fix the chip on your shoulder and stop whining.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    THAT is the type of behavior that should be condemned, and when people don't, that's why I question whether they're genuine with their moral/principled/neutral calling out of others.
    Your behavior should be condemned but when it is, you curl up into a ball and fall back into this "woe is me, I am being bullied" stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Again, nonsense. I was harassed WAY worse and you guys didn't attack the person and people doing it. YOU were one of the people doing it.
    You got mega aggressive with me first, so screw off with this 'b-but hawassment!!!' stuff. You came at me swinging, and started crying when I swung back. If you can't handle heat, stay out of the kitchen.

    I've handled genuine actual harassment on other sites. I've never cried about that happening like you do. What happened to you is that you got roasted after a bad take and couldn't handle it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    my god actual three year old lmao
    The average Lalafell player.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nebelheim View Post
    The only one i been insulted by once i started posting again was from atelier. Why call out people i don't have problems with when its only one person who has insulted me on the forums.
    Yeah, and you shouldn't be obligated to just because someone else has a grudge over imagined past grievances.

    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Ok I'm gonna be honest with you because I'm just done with some people here and I'm gonna refrain from ever responding to them again. But before I do, I need to actually know. Where exactly in my posts have I directly called you names or insulted you; especially if I was the one who started it first.
    You've been hostile to everyone ever since people called your response thread out.
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    Last edited by AwesomeJr44; 08-11-2023 at 11:09 AM.

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