7.0 copium has got to stop

[VelKallor]

I think people who are expecting Dawntrail to refresh the game and make it seem like new again are going to be disappointed.

Thats one opinion, sure, on the other hand we dont know. From the trailer ( this will be one of three or so, as we havent seen the FULL trailer yet ), IMO theres no need to borrow disappointment. Ive enjoyed Endwalker immensely, yet whilst I agree that to a *point* it has been..well..formulaic, theres always room to see things changed up.

There will probably be new bits sprinkled in, but dungeons, trials and raids will all be like what we have already been getting and that is the content that we interact with the most.

Not too sure I agree here, raids have their appeal, yes, but in looking at the ENTIRE picture, no.

There are a myriad of other activities that ARENT raiding, and have their own appeal. FF 14 is not and never has been 'raid centric", I think that if you had complete participation data ( which we dont have and never will ) you may find that perspective covers a much wider scope.

"If you dont raid you arent playing the game" is a narrow and idiotic stance.

Im happy to wait and see whats coming. That comment I saw about "maintenance mode" was kinda funny, as I KNOW we will be seeing a broad swathe of new content added over time. "Maintenance mode" and new content dont go together at all.

We have two more Fanfests and a lot more detail pending.

[BRVV]

Not too sure I agree here, raids have their appeal, yes, but in looking at the ENTIRE picture, no.

There are a myriad of other activities that ARENT raiding, and have their own appeal. FF 14 is not and never has been 'raid centric", I think that if you had complete participation data ( which we dont have and never will ) you may find that perspective covers a much wider scope.

"If you dont raid you arent playing the game" is a narrow and idiotic stance.

"If you dont raid you arent playing the game" was said by no one except yourself... quoting... the voices in your head? What is it with you and putting words in other people's mouths?

The comment you responded to also mentioned dungeons and trials. I don't know why you ignore that. Can every bit of FFXIV be lackluster because it has (arguably) so many different things to do?

What should count? Chocoboracing which hasn't been updated since forever? Island Sanctuary and its boringness and weak updates? The lackluster new deepdungeon? Criterion and Variant dungeons? (We know how those went)

[AwesomeJr44]

There are a myriad of other activities that ARENT raiding, and have their own appeal. FF 14 is not and never has been 'raid centric"

And is crafted gear intended for those activities or for raiding, VelKallor?

I'll let you use your calculator this time

oh wait I forgor, you don't raid in FFXIV

[DPZ2]

And is crafted gear intended for those activities or for raiding, VelKallor?

Crafted gear allows those who choose not to make a living out of raiding to catch up in a patch. It also allows players who don't raid to enjoy the glamours ... and to come up to speed if they just got the level 89-90 job gear and want to participate in something other than a long, slow slog to get through content.

Same goes for the hunt catchup gear ...

Some players enjoy wearing the latest styles and could care less about raiding.

I find most of my FC comrades who do raid don't even think about the crafted/hunt gear. They've already got their gear from, well, raiding.

[AwesomeJr44]

Crafted gear allows those who choose not to make a living out of raiding to catch up in a patch. It also allows players who don't raid to enjoy the glamours ... and to come up to speed if they just got the level 89-90 job gear and want to participate in something other than a long, slow slog to get through content.

That's not the intended purpose of it, but I was referencing another thread where Vel proved that he knows absolutely nothing about raiding in FFXIV anyways.

[Striker44]

That's not the intended purpose of it, but I was referencing another thread where Vel proved that he knows absolutely nothing about raiding in FFXIV anyways.

Actually, yes, it does serve *two* intended purposes - intro gear for raiding and catch-up gear for later. But at least you're becoming more willing to admit you're just being mean-spirited to others. Maybe next time you won't cry foul when someone points that out?

[AwesomeJr44]

Actually, yes, it does serve *two* intended purposes - intro gear for raiding and catch-up gear for later. But at least you're becoming more willing to admit you're just being mean-spirited to others. Maybe next time you won't cry foul when someone points that out?

You're just as ill-informed and deluded as Vel. Not surprising as you seem to have adopted a lot of Vel's talking points as of late.

[VelKallor]

You're just as ill-informed and deluded as Vel. Not surprising as you seem to have adopted a lot of Vel's talking points as of late.

The idea that people can make up their own minds kinda sails over your head, doesnt it. I was right. You really dont like people disagreeing with you.

[SieyaM]

Thats one opinion, sure, on the other hand we dont know. From the trailer ( this will be one of three or so, as we havent seen the FULL trailer yet ), IMO theres no need to borrow disappointment. Ive enjoyed Endwalker immensely, yet whilst I agree that to a *point* it has been..well..formulaic, theres always room to see things changed up.



Not too sure I agree here, raids have their appeal, yes, but in looking at the ENTIRE picture, no.

There are a myriad of other activities that ARENT raiding, and have their own appeal. FF 14 is not and never has been 'raid centric", I think that if you had complete participation data ( which we dont have and never will ) you may find that perspective covers a much wider scope.

"If you dont raid you arent playing the game" is a narrow and idiotic stance.

Im happy to wait and see whats coming. That comment I saw about "maintenance mode" was kinda funny, as I KNOW we will be seeing a broad swathe of new content added over time. "Maintenance mode" and new content dont go together at all.

We have two more Fanfests and a lot more detail pending.

You really only focused on the raiding part, when there are two other things in there which make up the entirety of the roulettes that we take part in every day or week. I am most certainly not a raider, but I still do the normal ones at least once to see the story bits attached to it. I am completely expecting combat content to remain wholly unchanged in Dawntrail as it has been since 2.0, we will be getting the same style of dungeons, trials, and raids (which includes the 24 man alliance raids) as we have been getting.