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  1. #21
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    Jojoya's Avatar
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Saranade View Post
    There is not shortage in supply and demand. It is only a created reality where Tanks and Healers are the most demanded, and they are absolutely the most easy to play. I can choose between any of them.
    But you're also choosing not to play tank or healer, and so you are stuck with the longer queue time. It's basic math problem.

    You need 1 tank, 1 healer, and 2 DPS to create a Light Party to enter a dungeon.

    50 players enter the queue. There are 4 tanks, 7 healers and 39 DPS.

    How many Light Parties can be formed? How many players are left in queue?

    If players continue to enter the queue at the rate of 1 tank every 2 minutes, 2 healers every 3 minutes, and 5 DPS every minute, how long will it take for the remaining players from the original queue of 50 to get match to a Light Party?

    There is a shortage in supply when players aren't willing to fill the needed roles. That's why tanks and healers get the Adventurer in need bonuses - to encourage players to use the least used roles. As others have said, this problem is really no different from others using the trinity.

    If you're really not interested in waiting, Duty Support exists for any dungeon part of the MSQ. For other group content, try Party Finder.

    Also, a world being Congested means nothing when it comes to group matchmaking. Matchmaking is data center wide. It's still reliant on players queuing for the duties/roulettes in the correct proportions for the content.
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  2. #22
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    Myrany Wilzuun
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    Zalera
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    Miner Lv 87
    I honestly dont consider 10-20 minutes bad. I remember waiting upwards of 4 hours as a DPS in another game.
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  3. #23
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    Marshmallow Puff
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    Excalibur
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    Warrior Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by Saranade View Post
    Hi
    Queue as a DPS and you could wait anywhere from 10 - 20 mins, from a world that is "congested." Meanwhile, only Tanks and Healers get perks from running Roulettes, and god forbid you choose a DPS else you will not only be unrewarded, but wait in line for 30 minutes. I have canceled my sub at this point, and its running out soon. This game has a lot of work to do. Stop the glamourized timed sync from 1.0.
    I am on the same server/DC and have no problem queuing even as dps/whatever role not in need. I never wait for 30 minutes unless I try to queue for something like Rabanastre at 2 am. It’s usually 5-10 mins at most with some insta queues.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 08-09-2023 at 05:23 AM.

  4. #24
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    Darkobra Kage
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    Phoenix
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    It's been like this forever, and I'm ok with the wait. I queue up, I do other things for those 10 minutes and time flies. Either I'm on Netflix or I'm reading something or continuing a story quest. 10 minutes is nothing. Try playing games without a party finder that does it all for you and see how long it takes.
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  5. #25
    Player RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkobra View Post
    It's been like this forever, and I'm ok with the wait. I queue up, I do other things for those 10 minutes and time flies. Either I'm on Netflix or I'm reading something or continuing a story quest. 10 minutes is nothing. Try playing games without a party finder that does it all for you and see how long it takes.
    Yeah... the annoying part is those times when you queue as DPS to use the short amount of time you usually have in queue to do something really quick and that's when it decides to insta-pop.
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  6. #26
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    Darkobra Kage
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    Phoenix
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Yeah... the annoying part is those times when you queue as DPS to use the short amount of time you usually have in queue to do something really quick and that's when it decides to insta-pop.
    Actually happened to me yesterday in the middle of a cutscene. I was queued for main story roulette so I thought I had more time on my hands.
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  7. #27
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    Annabel Ashcroft
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Yeah, friends make DPS leveling and story queues MUCH less painless since they will go as the tanks/healers thus filling up needed jobs. Weekly Tome grinding is a non issue since Expert pops easily in 5 minutes or less queuing as a DPS.

    If you don't have friends or prefer to play solo, well....as others have said, Party Finder works decently well for story trials and dungeons when you do it at server prime time. DPS Leveling roulettes also go quicker Prime time too.

    DPS queues really are a crapshoot though, with unexpected quick pops at times. Other times, you can end up watching a full episode of something on Netflix before you will hear the ding.
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  8. #28
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    Midare Dare
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    Famfrit
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Saranade View Post
    There is not shortage in supply and demand. It is only a created reality where Tanks and Healers are the most demanded, and they are absolutely the most easy to play. I can choose between any of them.
    Easy to play, hard to play, that doesn't matter. They are needed. DPS are easily replaceable because it's the role that has the lowest level of responsibility. Your only real responsibility it's hit the right combo and not die by doing something dumb. Also, blm at a casual level is not a difficult job to play.

    Learn the mantra:

    As a dps I'm expendable.

    Once you come to be at peace with this reality, 10-20 minute queues will be a breeze and you'll be glad you don't have 1+ hour queues.

    Sincerely: A dps main.
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  9. #29
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    Ellisar Loravalur
    World
    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Literally depends of the day and hour. Weekend can be harder because most of us are going out or doing something else. FFXIV has many people 30+ yo that has multiple responsibilities. Weekdays are easier to find, specially late afternoon and night when people are leaving their job or college. Usually my queue times is 5min even as DPS.
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  10. #30
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    Nebelheim's Avatar
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    Lilisette Lufaise
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    On my main i wait no more then 10 minutes as a dps on primal i don't mind waiting. I use to play tank but lost interest in playing tanks and healers because i think there not fun anymore and don't want to play those roles just for instant que. I just do random things while waiting the 5-10 minutes in que.
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