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  1. #201
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  2. #202
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    did this get linked on some housing twitter drama thread/discord lmao
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  3. #203
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
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    did this get linked on some housing twitter drama thread/discord lmao
    Archeron got the rest of his FC to roll up lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
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    did this get linked on some housing twitter drama thread/discord lmao
    Possibly, it got like 40-50k views overnight lol. Either way, I am happy - the issue is on the light now :3
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  5. #205
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    My two cents on the issue:

    - To me anyone that multiowns plots, is suspicious of selling Gil for real money. No proof, but suspicion is deffo there, even if multiowning itself is not against ToS.
    - Devs don't care about people selling Gil for real money. And that is because these sellers keep a whole section of the game alive and that is clubbing with thousands of people attending every night. Each big venue to run needs 10-15m Gil per opening and there's no way for an owner to get this kind of Gil unless they own dozens of subs or buy Gil for real money. If they go after Gil sellers, a whole section of the game will collapse overnight.
    - Other Gil buyers are gamba addicts. I have witnessed hundrends of thousands of Gil changing hands over a gamba table every night.
    - People post about empty wards as an excuse to multiowning. Well, there's also the other side of the coin. On my server (Spriggan) people own whole wards while the bids on a Medium some months ago were more than 400.
    - There's no other activity in the game than venue support that needs this kind of Gil. The root of the issue is there and I see no solution to it.
    -The ethical would be 1 FC and one private plot per account. You want a second FC plot? Pay a second subscription.
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    Last edited by JulyRiel; 08-08-2023 at 06:40 PM.

  6. #206
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    To me anyone that multiowns plots, is suspicious of selling Gil for real money. No proof, but suspicion is deffo there, even if multiowning itself is not against ToS.
    "suspicion" based on what ? please elaborate

    Devs don't care about people selling Gil for real money. And that is because these sellers keep a whole section of the game alive and that is clubbing with thousands of people attending every night. Each big venue to run needs 10-15m Gil per opening and there's no way for an owner to get this kind of Gil unless they own dozens of subs or buy Gil for real money. If they go after Gil sellers, a whole section of the game will collapse overnight.
    Now we are mixing in venue owners and also multiowners ? Yall really will go as far as possible huh just to find reasons to talk bad about people multiowning

    Other Gil buyers are gamba addicts. I have witnessed hundrends of thousands of Gil changing hands over a gamba table every night.
    You're telling me people gamble in a video game, an MMORPG too ? No way

    People post about empty wards as an excuse to multiowning. Well, there's also the other side of the coin. On my server (Spriggan) people own whole wards while the bids on a Medium some months ago were more than 400.
    Yeah I call lies on that one, but good attempt nonetheless, I've been following housing pretty closely, and I am certain that no mediums reached that much. In fact, a medium that was up in this round, LB5, a very cozy LB medium, had 16 bids on it in FC ward.

    There's no other activity in the game than venue support that needs this kind of Gil. The root of the issue is there and I see no solution to it.
    Once again, if you dont multiown, it's better to not say anything or at least ask about how it works, I dont do savage raiding, I dont talk about savage raiding.

    The ethical would be 1 FC and one private plot per account. You want a second FC plot? Pay a second subscription.
    Once again (x2), the fact you think multiowning can be done on a single account shows you are completely clueless.



    Quote Originally Posted by Reddyo View Post
    Possibly, it got like 40-50k views overnight lol. Either way, I am happy - the issue is on the light now :3
    As for our usual troll, the whole multiowning thing has been in the game since housing was introduced, you aint gonna achieve anything, but good luck in your crusade bud
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    Last edited by Stormpeaks; 08-08-2023 at 09:17 PM. Reason: correcting plot number

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  8. #207
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    "suspicion" based on what ? please elaborate



    Now we are mixing in venue owners and also multiowners ? Yall really will go as far as possible huh just to find reasons to talk bad about people multiowning



    You're telling me people gamble in a video game, an MMORPG too ? No way



    Yeah I call lies on that one, but good attempt nonetheless, I've been following housing pretty closely, and I am certain that no mediums reached that much. In fact, a medium that was up in this round, LB16, a very cozy LB medium, had 16 bids on it in FC ward.



    Once again, if you dont multiown, it's better to not say anything or at least ask about how it works, I dont do savage raiding, I dont talk about savage raiding.



    Once again (x2), the fact you think multiowning can be done on a single account shows you are completely clueless.





    As for our usual troll, the whole multiowning thing has been in the game since housing was introduced, you aint gonna achieve anything, but good luck in your crusade bud
    I have more clue about what's going on in Eorzea than you will ever have. Dont give to me the "you are clueless" cr@p.

    You seem to have forgotten the sleepless people savage clicking for days over a goblet small for that random window that would allow them to gain the plot while at the same time others owned whole wards.

    And if you haven't seen 400+ bids on a medium, that means you have joined Eorzea quite recently.
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    Last edited by JulyRiel; 08-08-2023 at 08:01 PM.

  9. #208
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    Quote Originally Posted by JulyRiel View Post
    I have more clue about what's going on in Eorzea than you will ever have. Dont give to me the "you are clueless" cr@p.

    You seem to have forgotten the sleepless people savage clicking for days over a goblet small for that random window that would allow them to gain the plot while at the same time others owned whole wards.


    Also I havent forgotten dont you worry, I have both bad memories and good memories from it.
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  10. #209
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    Quote Originally Posted by JulyRiel View Post
    And if you haven't seen 400+ bids on a medium, that means you have joined Eorzea quite recently.
    400 plus bids on... Spriggan? Which ward and plot, out of curiosity.
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  11. #210
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post

    Now we are mixing in venue owners and also multiowners ? Yall really will go as far as possible huh just to find reasons to talk bad about people multiowning


    Once again (x2), the fact you think multiowning can be done on a single account shows you are completely clueless.
    I, myself own more than one FCs in one account and along with my partner we own a good amount of subs even if I'm not considered a "multiowner". But I can see the potential of it. Making far more gil with just 16 subs than any activity in Eorzea demands. Except one.
    I'm also owner of several venues, I have been asked to pay 60m gil per week from people to manage them (that is 10-15m per opening). I couldn't afford it but there are people that do. I know how much gil/hour staff is getting paid from the crier to the dj, I know several "sponsors" who throw tenths of millions left and right to show off, I know multiowners involved in all this, personally. And I know very well that there are only 3 ways to fund a project like this. Either to have a zillion subs, a sponsor who owns a zillion subs or buys Gil, or buy Gil yourself. So, yes. Everything is interconnected. Unless you care to elaborate where else would someone spend billions of amassed Gil.
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