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    I like the scions but they are the reason I was quite disappointed in the trailer lol - I expected a fresh start - a clean slate away from all those scion shenanigans just good ol adventurer where you're unknown and newb :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remish View Post
    If we follow the plot pyramid, Endwalker was the Climax, Dawntrail is the start of the Falling Action. It's not impossible for there to be a second Rising Action but we have to suffer through the falling action first to get there.
    Your diagram is better interpreted as the components for each and every expansion. Leveling encompasses both exposition and rising action. The end of leveling is the Climax to the story. The post-release patches are the falling action with resolution of the primary story lines for that particular expansion as part of the final patch release. In the case of Endwalker, the Endsinger Trial is the Climax to the story. The post-release patches are falling actions (which may have their own rise/climax/falling action).

    When writing multipart fiction such as trilogies, writers can (and do) cheat. They are not bound to the diagram you presented. Endwalker at release can be considered the resolution phase of the 2.0 through 6.0 story line itself. Complete with its own Climax (as multipart fiction tends to do).

    Dawntrail at its release will utilize all of the plot components you've mentioned in its own self-contained story line, not a continuation of Endwalker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sindele View Post
    You can really tell who wasn't around for the Stormblood teaser trailer, huh?

    Wait for the complete thing before you start crying.
    Do people really hate the Stormblood teaser? I thought the WoL and Lyse sparring was great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Your diagram is better interpreted as the components for each and every expansion. Leveling encompasses both exposition and rising action. The end of leveling is the Climax to the story. The post-release patches are the falling action with resolution of the primary story lines for that particular expansion as part of the final patch release. In the case of Endwalker, the Endsinger Trial is the Climax to the story. The post-release patches are falling actions (which may have their own rise/climax/falling action).

    When writing multipart fiction such as trilogies, writers can (and do) cheat. They are not bound to the diagram you presented. Endwalker at release can be considered the resolution phase of the 2.0 through 6.0 story line itself. Complete with its own Climax (as multipart fiction tends to do).

    Dawntrail at its release will utilize all of the plot components you've mentioned in its own self-contained story line, not a continuation of Endwalker.
    I was speaking on FFXIV as a whole single pyramid, not individual expansions as separate pyramids side by side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remish View Post
    I was speaking on FFXIV as a whole single pyramid, not individual expansions as separate pyramids side by side.
    And I was speaking of FFXIV as a multipart fiction. If you must insist that a diagram portray the entirety of the work, the death of Elidibus in Shadowbringers was the Climax, and Endwalker has been the Falling Action and Resolution.
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    0 interest in it.

    Quote Originally Posted by SomeGuy22 View Post
    Few things of substance in there, aye, but it's still just a teaser. I'm not feeling too hot about it either most likely due to my feelings on EW, but at this point we just gotta wait for the full trailer/future announcements.
    I was mostly just morbidly curious they'd do with it after EW. I wasn't expecting much but it surprised me and not in a good way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shikiseki View Post
    I like the scions but they are the reason I was quite disappointed in the trailer lol - I expected a fresh start - a clean slate away from all those scion shenanigans just good ol adventurer where you're unknown and newb :/
    There seems to be no escape.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 07-30-2023 at 01:19 AM.
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    ... i liked it though ...
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    I don't understand the kind of person who sees Urianger kicking back with a tropical drink and isn't immediately satisfied.
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    Not sure how I feel tbh...the music though not great I do miss the old FF songs and I know times change but it felt all over the place and the singing was not so good. I do not mind the scions as I do like them but I would love to have seen Hilda or Yugiri for a change.

    I hate summer I am more of a snow autumn type so going to tropical places does nothing for me but I will enjoy the lore and some of the gear I am sure. I look forward to seeing more of the trailer and hope they can change that music up a bit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shikiseki View Post
    I like the scions but they are the reason I was quite disappointed in the trailer lol - I expected a fresh start - a clean slate away from all those scion shenanigans just good ol adventurer where you're unknown and newb :/
    how i feel exactly, I really liked them but at the same time i wanted a fresh cast at least in the main 7.0 series, or at least to see more new faces then the old ones. I think the Scions can/should return at some points but shouldn't be our main cast or focus.
    Theming wise? idk how i feel about it, certainly not as cool as EW/SHB but I don't mind the more relaxed pace... just wish that it would be more of a fresh start.
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