Can 7.0 focus on a storyline without the philosophizing

[IkaraGreydancer]

Considering you were very much involved in several lore threads, either here or lore forum, I call bs that you haven't seen any evidence posted.

Most likely, you don't see that evidence as evidence because it's against your argument.


"the characters understood and accepted Venat and her reasoning (nuance that many here claim doesn't exist in EW) but put her down as it was time too."

Except that they don't intend to do put her down. We fight her because she's issuing a test. Also, the scion accepting her is not even a nuance as they're not that bothered against her action.

If you want to debate, at least watch the cutscene first. Don't expect people to do your homework.

Can you prove what I have and have not see? Legit question btw. I even said I've seen opinions, but not sources with irrefutable evidence. Has nothing to do with it being against what I think. I'll gladly go back if I'm 100% wrong about something. I've done it before.

They don't intend to put her down? According to who? I saw no one pulling punches. They understood what they had to do and they did it. Your interpretation may be different n that's fine. And it quite literally IS nuance because they accepted her reasoning for doing what she did even though normally they wouldn't. The reasoning itself is what makes it acceptable to them. It isn't just black n white. But hey if you wanna call bs go for it. Don't really care to convince you.

They're the biggest bad-faith poster here unfortunately.

Ahh yes more hateboner bs from you. At least try n farm likes in a better way. Coming at me is way to easy as many folks here dislike me. I've been called basically everything here in these forums so at this point its just funny to me. This just adds to the list. With you, not agreeing or seeing things how you do = "bad faith". You even claimed I am responsible for the entire forum being how it is. It is CLEAR you have a grave dislike for me and youre not even trying to hide it now. Taking any chance to crap on me when possible. You've called out others here for doing things you yourself have done and do like thread derailing. Get over yourself

[Kozh]

Can you prove what I have and have not see? Legit question btw. I even said I've seen opinions, but not sources with irrefutable evidence. Has nothing to do with it being against what I think. I'll gladly go back if I'm 100% wrong about something. I've done it before.

The hell? How should I know that you see/not see? You could've read a post and not reply to that, and it would be considered as "see". I do know you have replied to conversations where people from both side post or cite their sources. If you join that conversation without reading the previous replies, that's on you.

They don't intend to put her down? According to who? I saw no one pulling punches. They understood what they had to do and they did it.

Alisae was literally surprised and went "No " when she saw hydaelyn dying. They're not pulling punches because it's a test, and she's not pulling punches either. Their purpose going into aetherial sea was to get help from hydaelyn, not putting her down.

And it quite literally IS nuance because they accepted her reasoning for doing what she did even though normally they wouldn't. The reasoning itself is what makes it acceptable to them. It isn't just black n white.

It's character inconsistency, not nuance. Did they ever show disagreement towards Venat, even if indirectly? No. They don't even discuss it except when ysthola clarified Venat MO.