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    Vandso's Avatar
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    Pink Perfection
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 100

    Yet another SMN thread: SMN is the only job that doesn't have a gauge/proc management

    The thing about Summoner is that you can do your rotation with your eyes closed. Easily. The only button I need to pay attention in my hotbar is Summon Bahamut/Phoenix. Aetherflow stacks don't matter. Gemstones don't matter. My pet doesn't matter. They're all scripted an repetitive, there's not need for change or adaptation. Just adding more buttons to press (let's say, a third Aetherflow stack for example) won't make the job more enjoyable. I want to be able to decide whether Summon A or B is better for the current situation, have more options to use Aetherflow differently, have a reason to be aware of my pet's position, maybe brings DoT back? Maybe make Physic worthwhile? If Summoner doesn't have any reason to pay attention to their gauges, than at least bring more situational skills to their kit.
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    Boblawblah's Avatar
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    Shara Dei-ji
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Na, Summoner is perfect ^^ Adding more buttons to press just to press more buttons is silly.
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    Bunnycake's Avatar
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    Yuki Yagami
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    Na, Summoner is perfect ^^ Adding more buttons to press just to press more buttons is silly.
    Yeah, this. It's the only one that hasn't filled up both hotbars.
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    Hrothgar so done with being second class that they summon their own primal to give them hair.
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    Matsya is an elephant. I cant blame them for not casting the voice to a talking elephant.

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    Zebra Rune
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    Gilgamesh
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    Sage Lv 90
    I vastly prefer the theme of current summoner, it actually feels like a Final Fantasy summoner instead of a discount WoW warlock. However I do think the job feels like it's stuck at 70 or 80 vs everyone else at 90. It's *almost* there, it just needs *something*. I'm not sure what that something is, though, but I do not think it's a return to the DoT gameplay (which, you know, I like for an appropriate class).
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    I vastly prefer the theme of current summoner, it actually feels like a Final Fantasy summoner instead of a discount WoW warlock. However I do think the job feels like it's stuck at 70 or 80 vs everyone else at 90. It's *almost* there, it just needs *something*. I'm not sure what that something is, though, but I do not think it's a return to the DoT gameplay (which, you know, I like for an appropriate class).
    I'm not talking about the theme of the job, which I actually like, I'm just saying that Summoner at lvl 90 feels like any other job at lvl 50.
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    Yes and I agreed with that. But there are a lot of people that want the old DoT gameplay back and that's what the last part of my post was referring to.
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    Arya Diavolos
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    Famfrit
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    Paladin Lv 98
    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    Na, Summoner is perfect ^^ Adding more buttons to press just to press more buttons is silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vandso View Post
    Just adding more buttons to press won't make the job more enjoyable.
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    Nia Niyah
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    Hyperion
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    Na, Summoner is perfect ^^ Adding more buttons to press just to press more buttons is silly.
    Adding more buttons to press so players dont fall asleep is not silly lol
    You can play healers already if you want to play 1 button jobs
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    Adding more buttons to press so players dont fall asleep is not silly lol
    You can play healers already if you want to play 1 button jobs

    You look like you play dancer, the job with the least amount of buttons lol.
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  10. #10
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    Vandso's Avatar
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    You look like you play dancer, the job with the least amount of buttons lol.
    It's actually Summoner tho.
    I can fit my entire rotation in 1 hotbar.
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