Zodiark's Codex entry what do we think about it?

[Roselin]

Genocide is a very real crime and concept. It is, perhaps, the greatest of real crimes, not just in terms of scale, but in terms of the scars that current, living populations still bear. As a result, it holds not just a dictionary and 'criminal court' definition, but a very real cultural one, bearing very deep meaning and representing real, still-extant wounds. Hell, the term itself is part of that legacy; it was coined because there wasn't even a word to describe what happened to the Armenian people or in the Holocaust, no crime existing to charge them of.

Applying it to fake, insane fantasy nonsense like the Sundering or the Calamities, things that aren't even intended to be anything heavier than 'Noah's Flood if God felt bad about it', does nothing but cheapen and damage both the term and every single person and concept involved in the discussion, including the word itself.

It seems I was still not successful in conveying myself, I'll try again. I do actually have quite familiar knowledge with genocide, having both studied it (and yes I did read Raphael Lemkin's books on the subject) and also having lived it.
I also understand settler-colonialism quite well, again having both studied it extensively and also having lived it my entire life.

I am not here to try to defend pixels or attack other pixels for being the bad pixels. My entire point was about the rhetoric often used in these discussions, by the players, not by the pixels in the pixel world.
To explain a bit better, imagine if the game had a SA scene, and after that the playerbase discussion around it would involve a lot of rhetoric like "she deserved it", "she was asking for it, look what she was wearing", would then a real life SA victim be wrong and "not understanding the real world implications of SA" for trying to say that this specific rhetoric is a bit uncomfortable to them?

I hope that made my point a bit more clear. (I am not here to attack anyone so please don't read hostile intent in this)

Edit: Oh I suddenly remembered something relevant to this! The unfortunate fact that the game itself uses the word "genocide" as a description of a plan similar in nature to the rejoinings and the sundering, namely Athena's plan.
https://i.imgur.com/1IjDtAy.jpeg
So I can't really blame the players for talking about these things like this given that the game does it and encourages it. (it was never really my intent to blame and cause guilt)

[Cleretic]

It seems I was still not successful in conveying myself, I'll try again. I do actually have quite familiar knowledge with genocide, having both studied it (and yes I did read Raphael Lemkin's books on the subject) and also having lived it.
I also understand settler-colonialism quite well, again having both studied it extensively and also having lived it my entire life.

I am not here to try to defend pixels or attack other pixels for being the bad pixels. My entire point was about the rhetoric often used in these discussions, by the players, not by the pixels in the pixel world.
To explain a bit better, imagine if the game had a SA scene, and after that the playerbase discussion around it would involve a lot of rhetoric like "she deserved it", "she was asking for it, look what she was wearing", would then a real life SA victim be wrong and "not understanding the real world implications of SA" for trying to say that this specific rhetoric is a bit uncomfortable to them?

I hope that made my point a bit more clear. (I am not here to attack anyone so please don't read hostile intent in this)

I wasn't talking about you, to clarify. You didn't bring that up, first of all, and I can tell you've got some level of cultural knowledge of it, and probably the same distaste for this treatment of the term as I do.

Every time it comes up on this particular subject, it's never brought up in good faith; it's used to basically force the discussion from 'there was no right answer, people made the best decisions they could and then had to live with that' into 'good versus evil and I can tell who's evil because one of them did The Worst Crime'. It hurts both the discussion being had about the story we were actually given, and discussions we could be having in the future, both on the subject of this game (again, I'd love to talk Sil'dih, but I don't feel we can) and in the real world.