"WE NEED MORE TIME BETWEEN PATCHES TO ENSURE QUALITY"

[Oizen]

wait people actually believed they were taking more time on patches for quality reasons? EW has kinda been a trainwreck in terms of consistent quality.

That line was corporate speak.
It roughly translates to "the budget for this game has been cut by higher ups at SE so we're not spending as much time on it anymore", but that's not a good marketing tagline.

[IkaraGreydancer]

wait people actually believed they were taking more time on patches for quality reasons? EW has kinda been a trainwreck in terms of consistent quality.

That line was corporate speak.
It roughly translates to "the budget for this game has been cut by higher ups at SE so we're not spending as much time on it anymore", but that's not a good marketing tagline.

Trainwreck? I love the forum and this hyperbolic wave some folks are on. Again what would constitute a trainwreck would be something akin to Cyberpunk or Fallout. What we have here is blips, chinks in the armor so to speak. The only big one that's indefensible being the housing issue. But more consistently than not XIVs Quality is damn good, far better than most other MMOs. But thats just my take.

Also I see this cut budget rhetoric all the time now. Is anyone gonna provide tangible proof of this or will folks continue to use this as some sort of point with no basis or backing?
Oh and before some goof says it, "the game itself is the proof". That doesn't cut it bud.


Also, because you aren't worth quoting Stormy. No one said they're upset that you aren't defending the game. Once again twisting peoples words like clockwork. Next people find different reasons to praise something. You may not feel it's worth praise but someone else does. Who are you or anyone to tell someone they shouldn't praise what they feel is praise worthy. Don't yall like to say "the forums are for feedback"? That's negative and positive feedback.
It's funny cause you still have this bs view that I love everything about the game when my post history proves otherwise. Going off post history if I'm the "shill" you coin me as you're the "hater" others have coined you as. You constantly give money to a game you rarely have anything good to say about...if that doesn't spell "brains" I don't know what does

[Avatre]

Trainwreck? I love the forum and this hyperbolic wave some folks are on. Again what would constitute a trainwreck would be something akin to Cyberpunk or Fallout. What we have here is blips, chinks in the armor so to speak. The only big one that's indefensible being the housing issue. But more consistently than not XIVs Quality is damn good, far better than most other MMOs. But thats just my take.

Also I see this cut budget rhetoric all the time now. Is anyone gonna provide tangible proof of this or will folks continue to use this as some sort of point with no basis or backing?

While I have no proof in regards to budget cuts, I feel it is the most likely reason for the extended time in patch cycles. The company (quite likely) is moving people from one project to another(essentially changing the budget for each project involved), rendering teams at less than ideal manpower levels, thus extending the time that is required to work on all assets of the patches. And, as it is a company decision, it definitely isn't the devs fault for any of it. I don't agree with it personally, but since I don't have any power to change their business decisions, I have to live with it(the only way to really change it is for the vast majority of people to speak with their wallets and stop giving them money). And all that speculation comes from personal experience working for a company that cut 30% of the accounting and payroll teams, forcing the remaining people to take on that extra load without taking employee input into account.

[IkaraGreydancer]

While I have no proof in regards to budget cuts, I feel it is the most likely reason for the extended time in patch cycles. The company (quite likely) is moving people from one project to another(essentially changing the budget for each project involved), rendering teams at less than ideal manpower levels, thus extending the time that is required to work on all assets of the patches. And, as it is a company decision, it definitely isn't the devs fault for any of it. I don't agree with it personally, but since I don't have any power to change their business decisions, I have to live with it(the only way to really change it is for the vast majority of people to speak with their wallets and stop giving them money). And all that speculation comes from personal experience working for a company that cut 30% of the accounting and payroll teams, forcing the remaining people to take on that extra load without taking employee input into account.

Thing is weren't they hiring folks not long ago to work on their teams (I could be misremembering so my apologies if I am). If so I wouldnt think that'd mean budget cutting. If anything I'd say they're just stretched to thin without a budget increase. So more time is needed. Kind of what you said but slightly different in the money aspect.
Ofc I'm not saying they 100% aren't cutting ofc cause I don't know, but I have noticed many improvements in the game itself wether it be QoL or even movement in cutscenes. Alot of this patch was much more dynamic (as far as msq goes). Same for EW as a whole really many more dynamic combat scenes n such.

I'd also imagine some of the blips we've had is due to the new overhaul we're getting in 7.0. I highly doubt we'd be getting that at all if SE was cutting budget for xiv. But again, I'm not in their offices

[Stormpeaks]

Trainwreck? I love the forum and this hyperbolic wave some folks are on. Again what would constitute a trainwreck would be something akin to Cyberpunk or Fallout. What we have here is blips, chinks in the armor so to speak. The only big one that's indefensible being the housing issue. But more consistently than not XIVs Quality is damn good, far better than most other MMOs. But thats just my take.

Also I see this cut budget rhetoric all the time now. Is anyone gonna provide tangible proof of this or will folks continue to use this as some sort of point with no basis or backing?
Oh and before some goof says it, "the game itself is the proof". That doesn't cut it bud.


Also, because you aren't worth quoting Stormy. No one said they're upset that you aren't defending the game. Once again twisting peoples words like clockwork. Next people find different reasons to praise something. You may not feel it's worth praise but someone else does. Who are you or anyone to tell someone they shouldn't praise what they feel is praise worthy. Don't yall like to say "the forums are for feedback"? That's negative and positive feedback.
It's funny cause you still have this bs view that I love everything about the game when my post history proves otherwise. Going off post history if I'm the "shill" you coin me as you're the "hater" others have coined you as. You constantly give money to a game you rarely have anything good to say about...if that doesn't spell "brains" I don't know what does

Maybe if you dont know how to read I have nothing "good" to say about it, I literally just praised the raid tier just today, and also defended SE in regards to the "children bed drama", I have also defended the housing system in the past because in my opinion there is no such thing as a "housing crisis" when thousands of plots are open on Dynamis, its just not a thing.

I just dont say positive things about the things that you find positive, and that's fine, as for your "you arent worth quoting", grow up and stop acting like an absolute child because we disagree

[IkaraGreydancer]

Maybe if you dont know how to read I have nothing "good" to say about it, I literally just praised the raid tier just today, and also defended SE in regards to the "children bed drama", I have also defended the housing system in the past because in my opinion there is no such thing as a "housing crisis" when thousands of plots are open on Dynamis, its just not a thing.

I just dont say positive things about the things that you find positive, and that's fine, as for your "you arent worth quoting", grow up and stop acting like an absolute child because we disagree

Hold on this is to rich. I have to address it. You start by saying "Maybe if you don't know how to read I have nothing good to say about it". Yet...if YOU knew how to read you'd see I said "you constantly give money to a game you RARELY have anything good to say about". Did you see that? "RARELY", not never or nothing. You either can't read, arent reading or purposely ignoring (to misrepresent what is being said, again common with you). Stuff like this here is why I said you aren't worth quoting but I figured I'd put this out front in center so people can see once again what I'm talking about.

Also rich seeing you say "I just don't say positive things about the things you find positive and thats fine". You've shown NUMEROUS times in the past that it's not "fine". You've labeled many people as white knights and shills for this very thing but now all of a sudden it's "fine". If this is you finally n truly figuring this out then I welcome the growth. But something tells me that wasn't genuine. If anyone is acting like a child it's one throwing around insults and labels based in opinions you don't agree with. Ie you