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  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomoo View Post
    Just going to say it… FFXIV content is lacking and telling the player ...
    BINGO! I win! "FFXIV content is lacking" was exactly what I needed on my FFXIV Forums Commentary Card for "Just under the wire: complaining about content two days before patch release".

    Thank you. Thank you.
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  2. #132
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    BINGO! I win! "FFXIV content is lacking" was exactly what I needed on my FFXIV Forums Commentary Card for "Just under the wire: complaining about content two days before patch release".

    Thank you. Thank you.
    Ok and? People have assessed the preview during the live letter and are not thrilled with the level of content coming in the patch and that it is far less than previous patches.

    Just because new content is coming doesn’t mean it’s going to fix all the current issues with the game.
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  3. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    Just because new content is coming doesn’t mean it’s going to fix all the current issues with the game.
    Why would it?
    Its a patch, not a whole new Expansion. These Fixes to Current issues isnt something thats gonna be regulated to a simple Patch.
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  4. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    Ok and? People have assessed the preview during the live letter and are not thrilled with the level of content coming in the patch and that it is far less than previous patches.

    Just because new content is coming doesn’t mean it’s going to fix all the current issues with the game.
    It isn't far less though? for the day and release its identical to other expansion X.4 patches....the only different is 6.45 while not having a new exploration zone we have another variant/criterion dungeon and the relic not being 'Run X content for a 20% drop and continue to farm what you like tome wise' There is nothing lesser about this patch....yeesh
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  5. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    The time for a FFXIV exodus is likely upon us.
    I... don't think it's that dramatic. It's just a game. There will still be people coming and enjoying the game even though it's not pandering towards the old guard.
    And that's completely fine. I say let them enjoy the game for what it is.

    Just come for the stuff that's still good for you. Whether that be RP/ERP, Gold Saucer, the Crafting, the Story, anything really.
    It's not really a "forever" game. I don't think any game is tbh.

    I don't think being this attached to any form of media is healthy anyway. There's a lot of things that compete for your attention, so I say if you don't like it, complain about it for a bit, and if it doesn't change, just leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grann-Goro View Post
    Here I present you the new healer tutorial in FFXIV :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlc-QtQxGys&list=PLvHbKTvfkkvI6D__Pg84M_18NhpPR3ojs

  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    Ok and? People have assessed the preview during the live letter and are not thrilled with the level of content coming in the patch and that it is far less than previous patches.

    Just because new content is coming doesn’t mean it’s going to fix all the current issues with the game.
    Mind putting out a comparison of sorts? You say far less content here yes? I'm curious. What did 5.4, 4.4, 3.4 and 2.4 give us compared to what's coming in 6.4?
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  7. #137
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    Quote Originally Posted by Payotz View Post
    I... don't think it's that dramatic. It's just a game. There will still be people coming and enjoying the game even though it's not pandering towards the old guard.
    And that's completely fine. I say let them enjoy the game for what it is.

    Just come for the stuff that's still good for you. Whether that be RP/ERP, Gold Saucer, the Crafting, the Story, anything really.
    It's not really a "forever" game. I don't think any game is tbh.

    I don't think being this attached to any form of media is healthy anyway. There's a lot of things that compete for your attention, so I say if you don't like it, complain about it for a bit, and if it doesn't change, just leave.
    I think the “Oh the end is nigh!" behaviour is bewildering and makes debating feel pointless at times. Like, I get being passionate about it. This game was here for me in the worst year of my life, but in the end it is just a game. Pixels on a screen. There is no shame to moving on, or taking a break.
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  8. #138
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    The Atmosphere of the community is similar to how it was in BFA for WoW. Community is polarized into camp; Endwalker and everything about endwalker is garbage, and camp; Everything is fine, stop whining.

    Meanwhile the game suffers as a whole.

    Will there be a Mass Exodus from XIV? Likely not. What killed WoW and halved its population overnight was a combination of the Blitzchung hong kong protests, WC3 Reforged, and the sexual assault allegations hitting them all within a time span of a few months, and the last 2 expansions being completely horrible. The community was already turned against the developers, and the scandals were just the final nail in the coffin for a lot of people.

    The XIV team doesn't fully have the same issues going for them, though I believe the direction they're heading is horrible.

    They don't listen to feedback from their playerbase. There are plenty of easy problems in PvE, and PvP they can fix. But do they? No. They do not. We say we want more content, Yoshi and crew say go play Zelda. We say we want serious PvP fixes, they say no, go play a different mode. Healers want their jobs to be less mindless, Yoshi says you should just go play ultimates. Theres a disconnect between the community, and the people making the decisions and they don't seem to be getting the message that a lot of people aren't happy with what they're doing.

    More then likely there won't be a mass exodus. FFXIV won't go down with a bang, but with a whimper as it slowly loses people as these problems worsen, and theres likely nothing that can be done about it because the community won't come together and agree on anything. You're either a XIV hater, or a XIV copium addict.
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  9. #139
    Player Hurlstone's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archeron View Post
    The Atmosphere of the community is similar to how it was in BFA for WoW. Community is polarized into camp; Endwalker and everything about endwalker is garbage, and camp; Everything is fine, stop whining.
    Is the community really that divided though? This forum? Sure, but we are just a small grain of sand compared to the wider community (One consisting also of trolls, attention seekers and disingenuous debaters) and whilst I do not want to invalidate genuine concerns, it just does not seem to have the same general 'outrage' BFA+ had.

    I also kinda disagree with the description of said camps too. Very rarely do people seem to be copium addicted boot licker's demanding people not complain. There is a difference between disagreeing with criticism and saying it should not exist.
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    Last edited by Hurlstone; 05-22-2023 at 10:27 AM.

  10. #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurlstone View Post
    Is the community really that divided though? This forum? Sure, but we are just a small grain of sand compared to the wider community (One consisting also of trolls, attention seekers and disingenuous debaters) and whilst I do not want to invalidate genuine concerns, it just does not seem to have the same general 'outrage' BFA+ had.

    I also kinda disagree with the description of said camps too. Very rarely do people seem to be copium addicted boot licker's demanding people not complain. There is a difference between disagreeing with criticism and saying it should not exist.
    We can't even discuss what people think ingame, because ingame chat is so heavily moderated that any mildly offensive comment will get you account warnings, or a ban. Most people will choose not to speak ingame about anything critical of the game.

    That being said, I don't see a middle ground with this community. They're either completely satisfied and annoyed that people don't like aspects of their game, or they're constantly complaining on the forums about every aspect of the game. This community has no unity whatsoever, and it sends a divided messages to the developers who in turn just do whatever they want regardless of how it affects the game and the result is lackluster, boring content with no polish, and the developers accepting no accountability for it.

    The reason I specifically mention BFA was the absence of that complete outrage in the early patches. The community was definetely seething, but a lot of people still had hopes that when Shadowlands and Classic came out that things would get better and there would be a lot to look forward to. Obviously we know how that ended up going. It feels similar in XIV today, and I can see the disconnect between the developers, and the community at large. I have no doubt that based upon the quality of content we've recieved in the mid expansion patches, if this continues into 7.0 XIV will start slowly bleeding players. They still have the chance to fix that.
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