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    Player SassyAssassin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurlstone View Post
    I will say that the fear of loosing a house is one of the reasons why FOMO is a horrible aspect of any game, and why housing needs a radical overhall.
    Yup, I wish they had houses for everyone, it’s hard enough as it is in real life, at least in fantasy games come on ;__;….. but I know housing brings them a lot of money so they won’t ever change this system with the exception of possible extra wards in the future again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    How about we ask for more because we're paying customers and square enix aren't our friends?
    why settle for less with a product?
    Walk into a store and buy a loaf of bread. Then walk over to the customer service desk and tell them that the loaf of bread wasn't sufficient value for the amount you paid, that it should have been 2 loaves of bread and a pound of cheese and that you want them to give you that second loaf plus the cheese right now. What do you think the response will be from the store's employees? What do you think the response would be from other customers nearby listening to your conversation?

    Money only goes so far. There comes a point that to get more, you need to pay more. If you're not satisfied with the quantity you're getting now, you probably won't be satisfied with the amount you get at the higher price, either.

    If you're not satisfied with the amount of content you get here, why not take your money and put it into another entertainment service instead, whether that's a game, movie/show streaming service, music platform, etc.? Oh, don't forget to limit yourself to content that you've never seen/heard before while you're at it. Make certain you only get more completely new content.

    Quote Originally Posted by SassyAssassin View Post
    Yup, I wish they had houses for everyone, it’s hard enough as it is in real life, at least in fantasy games come on ;__;….. but I know housing brings them a lot of money so they won’t ever change this system with the exception of possible extra wards in the future again
    Makes me wonder if we would have enough houses if all those who complain about a lack of content but stay subbed for the sake of a house they only use 1 week every 4 months (other than to step inside to reset the demo timer) gave up those houses so they didn't feel compelled to stay subscribed.

    Almost every business out there that sells some sort of consumer product/service relies on FOMO at times to keep the customer spending their money on their products/services. "Buy now and scan the code inside the package to see what you've won!" "This month only a special screening of that hot movie everyone is talking about."

    Why? Because it works too well with too many people. Social media has effectively doubled down on it by pitting people against each other based on who has and who doesn't. I'm sure it amuses marketing agencies that abuse social media to get the consumers to do 99% of the marketing work for them.

    It's up to consumers to break themselves out of the FOMO habit. If they don't cave to FOMO, corporations can't use that against them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Walk into a store and buy a loaf of bread. Then walk over to the customer service desk and tell them that the loaf of bread wasn't sufficient value for the amount you paid, that it should have been 2 loaves of bread and a pound of cheese and that you want them to give you that second loaf plus the cheese right now. What do you think the response will be from the store's employees? What do you think the response would be from other customers nearby listening to your conversation?

    Money only goes so far. There comes a point that to get more, you need to pay more. If you're not satisfied with the quantity you're getting now, you probably won't be satisfied with the amount you get at the higher price, either.

    If you're not satisfied with the amount of content you get here, why not take your money and put it into another entertainment service instead, whether that's a game, movie/show streaming service, music platform, etc.? Oh, don't forget to limit yourself to content that you've never seen/heard before while you're at it. Make certain you only get more completely new content.


    Makes me wonder if we would have enough houses if all those who complain about a lack of content but stay subbed for the sake of a house they only use 1 week every 4 months (other than to step inside to reset the demo timer) gave up those houses so they didn't feel compelled to stay subscribed.

    Almost every business out there that sells some sort of consumer product/service relies on FOMO at times to keep the customer spending their money on their products/services. "Buy now and scan the code inside the package to see what you've won!" "This month only a special screening of that hot movie everyone is talking about."

    Why? Because it works too well with too many people. Social media has effectively doubled down on it by pitting people against each other based on who has and who doesn't. I'm sure it amuses marketing agencies that abuse social media to get the consumers to do 99% of the marketing work for them.

    It's up to consumers to break themselves out of the FOMO habit. If they don't cave to FOMO, corporations can't use that against them.
    Walk into a store and buy a loaf of bread. Then walk over to the customer service desk and tell them that the loaf of bread wasn't sufficient value for the amount you paid, that it should have been 2 loaves of bread and a pound of cheese and that you want them to give you that second loaf plus the cheese right now.
    What an absolutely ridiculous take of people complaining or asking for more content to be added to the game

    yall will really go to far lengths to try and defend this game as much as you can, absolutely pathetic

    then again your entire post history is just you kissing yoshi's boots and worshipping him, calling off any sort of complaint and criticism of the game by telling them to "just play a different game and quit"

    yikes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    What an absolutely ridiculous take of people complaining or asking for more content to be added to the game

    yall will really go to far lengths to try and defend this game as much as you can, absolutely pathetic

    then again your entire post history is just you kissing yoshi's boots and worshipping him, calling off any sort of complaint and criticism of the game by telling them to "just play a different game and quit"

    yikes
    Nah, it's simple.

    If I don't like a product and don't believe it to be worth my money, I don't pay for it. Most normal people can kind of make that internal decision of their own volition, but I guess the people on the forums are just a special breed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EliaStormblade View Post
    Nah, it's simple.

    If I don't like a product and don't believe it to be worth my money, I don't pay for it. Most normal people can kind of make that internal decision of their own volition, but I guess the people on the forums are just a special breed.
    Pretty much. I'd like the game to be better, but there's literally no reason for them to do that.
    The game will always have shit PvE and PvP. That's just how it is. There's no changing that.
    They won't listen to old players, they'll listen to the trends.
    They'll listen to how much Catgirl Everdeen buys Fantasias. They'll listen to Daddy Tablebender keeping their sub on for their sex dungeons.

    So I just use it as a VRchat equivalent that I pay $13/month for every 6-9 months. Any "feedback" I give is a gonna go straight into the dumpster anyway. Shit doesn't matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grann-Goro View Post
    Here I present you the new healer tutorial in FFXIV :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlc-QtQxGys&list=PLvHbKTvfkkvI6D__Pg84M_18NhpPR3ojs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Payotz View Post
    They'll listen to how much Catgirl Everdeen buys Fantasias. They'll listen to Daddy Tablebender keeping their sub on for their sex dungeons.

    So I just use it as a VRchat equivalent that I pay $13/month for every 6-9 months.
    I don't suppose you see the hypocrisy here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    I don't suppose you see the hypocrisy here.
    Oh yeah I'm very aware of it.
    The game just has a different target audience, and the devs are clearly targeting that target audience.

    So might as well just use the product as it is now intended, a catgirl fucking simulator for $13/month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grann-Goro View Post
    Here I present you the new healer tutorial in FFXIV :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlc-QtQxGys&list=PLvHbKTvfkkvI6D__Pg84M_18NhpPR3ojs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    What an absolutely ridiculous take of people complaining or asking for more content to be added to the game

    yall will really go to far lengths to try and defend this game as much as you can, absolutely pathetic

    then again your entire post history is just you kissing yoshi's boots and worshipping him, calling off any sort of complaint and criticism of the game by telling them to "just play a different game and quit"

    yikes
    It’s not kissing boots to point out facts. You paid for access to play the product they have prepared, regardless of how good/bad/extensive it is. SE owes you nothing else.

    Everything they do is in an effort to maximize profits and cast as wide a net as possible. You are free to make polite suggestion and requests…and if those make business sense to them and are pretty wide-spread it might happen.

    ..but this isn’t some kind of town hall/round table discussion where we are entitled to anything else. It’s not like they owe us because we have umpteen hundred hours invested in our character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    It’s not kissing boots to point out facts. You paid for access to play the product they have prepared, regardless of how good/bad/extensive it is. SE owes you nothing else.

    Everything they do is in an effort to maximize profits and cast as wide a net as possible. You are free to make polite suggestion and requests…and if those make business sense to them and are pretty wide-spread it might happen.

    ..but this isn’t some kind of town hall/round table discussion where we are entitled to anything else. It’s not like they owe us because we have umpteen hundred hours invested in our character.
    So according to your point of view, people shouldnt even complain then, after all they dont owe us anything so why even complain ? All we are good is for paying the subscription right ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    So according to your point of view, people shouldnt even complain then, after all they dont owe us anything so why even complain ? All we are good is for paying the subscription right ?
    Nah you should complain. Give feedback as much as you can, but if they still won't listen after a while, then you just leave and find another video game.
    And I'm telling you, as a dude who's been complaining in this place for 4-5 years, they won't listen.
    They won't listen to you, they won't listen to me, because we're not the target audience anymore.

    Let's just both hope the upcoming MMOs are good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grann-Goro View Post
    Here I present you the new healer tutorial in FFXIV :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlc-QtQxGys&list=PLvHbKTvfkkvI6D__Pg84M_18NhpPR3ojs

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