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    Why balance jobs to just high-end raids?

    I don’t see the point in balancing jobs to high end raids. Even if you balance jobs so they’re all playable in high end content, raiders will still meta chase and use mods and tools to make their experience easier. Meanwhile, because jobs aren’t balanced to casual content, some jobs take more effort than others to clear content because of the huge discrepancy in how much skill is needed to play a job, which doesn’t exist in 8-man content because that’s where jobs are balanced. In 4-person content such as dungeons, the effort discrepancy between the job that requires the least effort to play and the job that requires the most effort to play is big to the point where it’s not worth playing certain jobs in 4-man content. But in 8-man hard content, even the job that requires the most amount of effort is not that different compared to the job that requires little effort.
    I don’t get why casual players need to put more effort in playing the job they like in content they want to play while high end players get to put the same amount of effort into each job to do the same thing. I think jobs should be more balanced towards casual content because so the amount of skill and effort required to clear is not so wide between jobs while it doesn’t matter if the skill gap is wide for high end content because raiders often just end up gravitating towards the easier job anyways.
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    Because to a (shrinking) part of the playerbase, the job that requires the most "effort" is often times the most fun.
    Don't worry though, the game is quickly homogenizing the jobs so that they all require just one braincell to execute.

    Just have patience little bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grann-Goro View Post
    Here I present you the new healer tutorial in FFXIV :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlc-QtQxGys&list=PLvHbKTvfkkvI6D__Pg84M_18NhpPR3ojs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Payotz View Post
    Don't worry though, the game is quickly homogenizing the jobs so that they all require just one braincell to execute.
    That might be the case for high-end content, but for every time they balance jobs to high end content the effort gap for casual content becomes wider and wider. Jobs that are easy for high end content end up becoming stronger in casual content, while jobs that are considered already strong in high end content becomes worse in casual content. Homogenization currently only helps high end players have an easier time with the job they want to play, not casual players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyonaCookie View Post
    Homogenization currently only helps high end players have an easier time with the job they want to play, not casual players.
    And that in turn results in the job being easier to play.
    If you're having doubts about the direction job design is going, take a look at SMN and MCH.
    Those are the latest examples of "complete reworks" they've done recently.

    You're going to be fine. You are the game's target audience. Yoshi-P will always deliver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grann-Goro View Post
    Here I present you the new healer tutorial in FFXIV :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlc-QtQxGys&list=PLvHbKTvfkkvI6D__Pg84M_18NhpPR3ojs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Payotz View Post
    You're going to be fine. You are the game's target audience. Yoshi-P will always deliver.
    I know It's wonderful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    I know It's wonderful.
    Oh I agree! So true bestie!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grann-Goro View Post
    Here I present you the new healer tutorial in FFXIV :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlc-QtQxGys&list=PLvHbKTvfkkvI6D__Pg84M_18NhpPR3ojs

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    In my opinion, balancing the jobs really is just about making sure each role has an engaging toolkit and does nearly equal dps(per role). From what I've seen, most of the jobs are fine in that regard, except for maybe the healers. Don't most of them only have 2 dps buttons for single target situations? If so, that sucks. To add, balancing jobs for high end is where it matters because other content doesn't challenge people enough for balance to matter.
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    I miss when Astrologian was a bit harder to use due to switching to either shields or healers and how all the cards function differently I don't miss TP <- that can stay dead and forgotten for all I care.
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    Because every combat content below savage is trivial where you dont need to perform to the best of your ability to clear.
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    Because that's the only place where balance matters.
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