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  1. #2741
    Player
    SavageCipher's Avatar
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    Minerva Prime
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 66
    It still amazes me, that we have an extended wiki and even a channel dedicated to ALL of the dungeons and raids, with quick tips and everything, and people still don't do the research...wanna flake a dungeon and YOLO to victory? Sure okay, no big deal...but when it's a raid...we have lives outside this game. This isn't Shield Hero or Bonfuri, many of us go outside, and hangout with friends, don't waste anyone's time by not doing the research and dying/causing wipes. Still my biggest gripe.

    Everything else, can get annoying, but nothing beats the YOLO/Leroy Jenkins...its cute when its a comedy channel...not when I'm paying for a sub.
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  2. #2742
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    SavageCipher's Avatar
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    Minerva Prime
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Cincierta View Post
    I'm salty.

    Friend basically didn't want to be dragged into EO but I at least wanted one deep dungeon that we can consider cleared since it seems everyone in my fc has no interest in doing deep dungeons.

    Most of the runs were like 'we should do this blind, we'll learn faster that way like Drak does!' or 'stop making me look up mechanics!' when he clearly needs to. We had a near wipe on floor 76 because both the tank and healer stared at the bird of paradise too long during it's cast and were fired by Revelation.

    The smn in our group tried to solo the bird and the thunder beast that came, but wasn't paying attention to the butt wiggle jiggle it did and ate a Scythe Tail of death. SMN is also a savage raider callout person and was supremely confident in his ability to read tells.

    They're screaming at me to use up a lot of protomanders, I clear a path to the carin of return, and then get yelled at for using up a Dread.

    Next day we finally clear out 81-100, and get some gold bags in the process. We get out and open our bags.

    I get a bunch of the pachyderm minions that are mostly worthless.

    Tank friend who got upset at me for looking up guides on how to do these bosses and what dangers to look out for pulled the damn crab mount. Now that he's gotten it, he's mostly lost interest in running it again.

    *internal screaming*

    Some horrible human beings man. I get not wanting to do raids, fair enough. I myself have been worn out since Kara weekly's in WoW...but in FF, there's no need to wait a whole month/week just to run a raid again. The issue here is that a lot of people are paying to play a game and have bad times doing so...if you know you don't like YOLO running dungeons, just read/watch the strats and handle it. Said person is ultimately paying a sub, to complain about raids, do poorly in them and never help...literally the worst person.
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  3. #2743
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    EgilTheStressedMage's Avatar
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    Character
    Egil Vairemont
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    ....How is this even possible?
    Ask the DRK that single pulled in goddamn Praetorium.
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  4. #2744
    Player
    Meckaku's Avatar
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    Character
    Ashisha Bashoor
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by EgilTheStressedMage View Post
    Ask the DRK that single pulled in goddamn Praetorium.
    To be fair, there's only like one area (before the first boss) where you can pull more than 1 mob group in Prae. After the first boss, you use Magitek Armor to deal with other trash packs. Well, I suppose you could, as a group not use the Magitek Armor to W2W pull after the first boss, but... why?
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  5. #2745
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    VictorSpoils's Avatar
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    Victor Spoils
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    ....How is this even possible?
    The tank dying or the w2w? It's one of the harder dungeon pulls (especially with an AST), but it's doable.
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  6. #2746
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Character
    Mira Clearweaver
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Expert Roulette on my alt (WHM): Fell Court of Troia.

    Paired with a SMN, RDM, and first timer PLD.

    Barrier lifted, first---------single pull we go... and apparently the other two casters are content with it so I suck it up and let them have their slower pace. On 3rd out of 4 pulls I've noticed how this PLD health dwindle so fast despite sticking to only single pulls. Turns out they barely made any effort to get out of bad stuffs. Granted they do sporadically uses their cooldown... no, Holy Shelltron was not one of them. I mean they do, but the only time I've seen it used was only after a pull dies. I still barely had to drop any heal on them outside prepull Regen and just keep Holy spamming, however.

    Fast forward to 2nd boss, they're carrying 6 tiger cookies... at the face of a tankbuster. Remember that I mentioned their sporadic use of cooldowns? They would've ate this one raw to death if I wasn't throwing out Benison+Aquaveil on 'em. I saw them ate that fat 72k damage on their 75k health bar. Spicy, but that's when the boss finally dies so no biggie.

    Fast forward again to last boss... remember again what I've mentioned about their habit?

    "Barely made any effort to move out of bad stuffs."

    They died to the knockback for standing inside the deathzone. RDM proceed on to be our main tank for the rest of the encounter. They survived a tankbuster with 23k HP remaining.

    Oh yeah, I did raised the PLD, however Provoke was probably anywhere but in their mind. 2nd kb happens, again they die to the same deathzone. Swiftraised them again... no vokes.. okay whatever.. RDM tank it is!

    Except they finally did at some point---after eating 4 tiger cookies and running with low health. To the floor again they go. At this point with 3% boss health remaining, I decided to just let them warm the floor and finish the run with the casters.

    Unsurprisingly that still only took 23m...
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  7. #2747
    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Character
    Feline Good
    World
    Halicarnassus
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 50
    Don't have the energy for a serious write up so have some memes.

    Me watching my zero DPS MCH drop the LB on the 2nd boss instead of waiting to use it on the next pull:



    The two tanks in my part after provoking and fighting over aggro the entire trial after they finally managed to wipe the rest of the party and finished the the remaining 25% of the boss by themselves:
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  8. #2748
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    Renalt's Avatar
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    Character
    Renalt El'doran
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Expert Roulette on my alt (WHM): Fell Court of Troia.

    Paired with a SMN, RDM, and first timer PLD.

    Barrier lifted, first---------single pull we go... and apparently the other two casters are content with it so I suck it up and let them have their slower pace. On 3rd out of 4 pulls I've noticed how this PLD health dwindle so fast despite sticking to only single pulls. Turns out they barely made any effort to get out of bad stuffs. Granted they do sporadically uses their cooldown... no, Holy Shelltron was not one of them. I mean they do, but the only time I've seen it used was only after a pull dies. I still barely had to drop any heal on them outside prepull Regen and just keep Holy spamming, however.

    Fast forward to 2nd boss, they're carrying 6 tiger cookies... at the face of a tankbuster. Remember that I mentioned their sporadic use of cooldowns? They would've ate this one raw to death if I wasn't throwing out Benison+Aquaveil on 'em. I saw them ate that fat 72k damage on their 75k health bar. Spicy, but that's when the boss finally dies so no biggie.

    Fast forward again to last boss... remember again what I've mentioned about their habit?

    "Barely made any effort to move out of bad stuffs."

    They died to the knockback for standing inside the deathzone. RDM proceed on to be our main tank for the rest of the encounter. They survived a tankbuster with 23k HP remaining.

    Oh yeah, I did raised the PLD, however Provoke was probably anywhere but in their mind. 2nd kb happens, again they die to the same deathzone. Swiftraised them again... no vokes.. okay whatever.. RDM tank it is!

    Except they finally did at some point---after eating 4 tiger cookies and running with low health. To the floor again they go. At this point with 3% boss health remaining, I decided to just let them warm the floor and finish the run with the casters.

    Unsurprisingly that still only took 23m...
    That's one of those "Do I eat the penalty" moments. I would have left. Your patience is more than mine.
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  9. #2749
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    VeyaAkemi's Avatar
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    Character
    Veya Akemi
    World
    Marilith
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Had a situation on Lvl 90 Roulette, Dead Ends, entire run goes mostly fine, I get hit by the fart gas on the first boss and that gets Esuna'd off pretty easily, I take it as a literal wake up call and focus, second boss I am flawless but the other DPS, also a DNC, dies 3 times, whatever, they were alive long enough to Standard Step buff me each time so I can live.

    On Ra La, Healer is visibly struggling to keep up with unavoidable damage and at one point the Tank started using Clemency on everyone, I mess up and I stand too close to the butterfly lasers, I thought I was on a safe spot but I guess the hitbox of the laser nicked me, I immediately hit Curing Waltz and Improvisation to bridge as much as possible for the Healer for them to top me off and... nothing, Doom goes off, Healer was new(map achievement went off when we reached Ra La), so I assume they just didn't know, and I explain the mechanic in chat while dead, a bit passes and Healer just goes "I know" in chat, a full 10 minutes of the Tank and Healer fighting Ra La by themselves, the other DNC had died some time before me, Healer had full MP the entire time and never used Swift, I was watching their buffs the entire time just in case, eventually they win the war of attrition, before leaving the Tank hits me with this garbage:



    I got hit twice in the entire dungeon, and only once in that boss fight, and I get this... anyway I reported the Healer for lethargic play after, as the "I know" made it clear they straight up refused to heal me, and were quite obviously refusing to rez either DPS despite being perfectly able to do so.
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  10. #2750
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    Lunaxia's Avatar
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    Character
    Ashe Sinclair
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    I'm bored in game lately, I said. I'm fed up of DPSing, I said. It's so easy, I said. I'll pick up Sage and see if it's any more interesting, I said.

    In a lesson that should be engraved in stone and kept as a shining example of "be careful what you wish for" for the ages, my first ever dungeon ten minutes later landed me in Dzemael Darkhold of all places. With a tank who liked to pull everything, and I mean everything. Wall-to-wall. Boss room to boss room. Who coincidentally also didn't know about the damage mitigation from the crystal light, or that you're supposed to stand in it. Or that suddenly popping your sprint as you turn around corners can have considerably lethal consequences. Or that the crystals can and do frequently explode. Or that DPS can aggro mobs if the tank doesn't AOE enough...

    I don't know how we survived without wiping, especially after the tank died about thirty seconds into the second pull and took the DPS with him, but I suspect I'll have ample opportunity to figure it out when I go over it in therapy for many years to come.

    I can still hear the screaming...
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