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  1. #11
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Honestly I agree with this, I dont have time for this game Square Enix, I want to play World of Warcraft, SCP Secret Laboratory and other games, but I deserve these relics, I demand to get them without any sort of work tied to it, so I can go to my venues the only times I log in and afk in my house as well, why should I have to do content to get it ? I want to play my other games, and I have a wife and kids, I dont have time, so give it to me, thank you Square Enix.

    ps : send me the ultimate weapons too, so I can afk with them while I play my other games, thank you yoshi P

    /s
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  2. #12
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Honestly I agree with this, I dont have time for this game Square Enix, I want to play World of Warcraft, SCP Secret Laboratory and other games, but I deserve these relics, I demand to get them without any sort of work tied to it, so I can go to my venues the only times I log in and afk in my house as well, why should I have to do content to get it ? I want to play my other games, and I have a wife and kids, I dont have time, so give it to me, thank you Square Enix.

    ps : send me the ultimate weapons too, so I can afk with them while I play my other games, thank you yoshi P

    /s
    Personally, I want to earn these relics while I play No Man's Sky. Yoshi P wants us to earn them while we are doing what we would normally be doing anyway, so it makes perfect sense!
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  3. #13
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Personally, I want to earn these relics while I play No Man's Sky.
    I cannot agree more, I would myself love to earn them while I play X-plane 11 which is a flight simulator, I just think I deserve them, I am working for them after all, just in another game, it's really just logic, and since our lord and savior yoshi P said to play other games, that's what I am doing, but I also dont want to miss out, so I will make space in my letterbox so I can be sent all the rewards for free and without having to do any work in the game
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  4. #14
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    LianaThorne's Avatar
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tulvi View Post
    Why should relics pose a significant challenge every single expansion? Finally they gave us something that doesn’t require a boring grind (which many players hated for several expansions now), and there’s outcry. For me, it’s a nice change, and I don’t have to commit all of my gameplay time to one part of the content.
    This expansion is the most content-rich and yet there’s people crying about perceived content-draught.
    There’s PvP series malmstones if you like grind, there’s Savages, Unreals, Extremes and Ultimates if you like PvE challenge. Also new Deep Dungeon, completely new Criterion and Variant dungeons, Island Sanctuary to chill at, countless new housing items, fair lottery and much more. There is enough content and it is released faster than in let’s say WoW.
    I'm sorry but did you just try to use housing items as an example of playable engaging content? You...put down a piece of furniture...and then it's done....? Yay?

    As for the rest:
    - Variant and Criterion are irrelevant in terms of replayability once you get all paths completed in Variant and got the throne via Criterion (done both of those)
    - Finished my PvP grind a week or two ago now and can't collect anything further past the gear since there's literally nothing of value to exchange the currency for anymore.
    - Extremes/Ultimates/Savage are pretty much irrelevant after you get your totems/mount/weapon/gear unless you want to outfit multiple classes
    - Deep Dungeon is irrelevant after you get your clear unless you push for a solo title or try to farm out the mount
    - Island Sanctuary is a literal daily that takes 10m of your time a day if you're actually optimized


    Please elaborate on how any of that is supposed to be engaging and long lasting?
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 05-02-2023 at 06:09 AM.

  5. #15
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised of they actually gave us relics for little to no work.
    Watch it become a subscription reward, subscribe and login when the patch comes out? Check your mail!
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  6. #16
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    Shara Dei-ji
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    I'm sorry but did you just try to use housing items as an example of playable engaging content? You...put down a piece of furniture...and then it's done....? Yay?

    As for the rest:
    - Variant and Criterion are irrelevant in terms of replayability once you get all paths completed in Variant and got the throne via Criterion (done both of those)
    - Finished my PvP grind a week or two ago now and can't collect anything further past the gear since there's literally nothing of value to exchange the currency for anymore.
    - Extremes/Ultimates/Savage are pretty much irrelevant after you get your totems/mount/weapon/gear unless you want to outfit multiple classes
    - Deep Dungeon is irrelevant after you get your clear unless you push for a solo title or try to farm out the mount
    - Island Sanctuary is a literal daily that takes 10m of your time a day if you're actually optimized


    Please elaborate on how any of that is supposed to be engaging and long lasting?
    Have you checked out Lost Ark? It seems like that would fit your style of always wanting something to grind everyday. I promise you, it would keep you busy.
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  7. #17
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    Tulviel Norolim
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Please elaborate on how any of that is supposed to be engaging and long lasting?
    Easily. Thanks to not having to level alts in this game, you answered your own question in this regard - gearing other jobs. I myself don’t have all mine on level 90, but I have one of each type (DPS, Tank, Healer) and from time to time I go gear them up. Even that takes long enough time and would keep me entertained for weeks.
    Variant and Criterion dungeons don’t have much replayability, that’s true, but take fair amount of time too.
    When it comes to housing, I love decorating and keep redecorating my house, apartment, FC room, house of our FC and places of my friends and it’s an endless source of creative possibilities for me. That alone could entertain me for months even if there wouldn’t be anything else to do (which there is).

    Furthermore, I spend my time with my friends (it’s a MMO), we run maps, do glam contests etc.
    Then there’s the Island, which is meant to be a quiet space after an exhausting story of EW, and I just love coming back to it and enjoy the views or RP with friends (it’s a role playing game after all).

    PvP - Occasional CC to slowly rise to tank 25 for the glam keeps me busy for the entire time between patches (or the last few weeks before the next patch if I was focused on other content). There are also frequent Irregular Tomestones events (like now), which is a great time to play RW with FC friends.

    Tribal Quests are also stretched over decent amount of time, so that’s also a nice thing to do, with the current one being my all time favourite.

    I enjoy almost every aspect of the game, and often find myself rushing content, because there’s too much to do in the little time we have between patches. WoW used to not have major patches for as long as 8 months and that was hell, because apart from end game, there’s NOTHING to do in there if you want to stand a chance with finding a group of people willing to revisit older content like achievements etc.

    That’s the beauty of FF for me - it has constantly kept me occupied with relevant content, and if I was fed up with the “endgame” content and grind for gearing up, there was and still is a ton I can do outside of that and will always find people to form a party with.

    I play for 5-6 hours over work days and around 10 hours over weekends and not once I have bumped into a situation that I had nothing to do (even with currently live content).
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  8. #18
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tulvi View Post
    I play for 5-6 hours over work days and around 10 hours over weekends and not once I have bumped into a situation that I had nothing to do (even with currently live content).
    it sounds like you just spend most of the time just typing then actually playing.
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  9. #19
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    Boo Box
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    Rafflesia
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tulvi View Post
    Easily. Thanks to not having to level alts in this game, you answered your own question in this regard - gearing other jobs. I myself don’t have all mine on level 90, but I have one of each type (DPS, Tank, Healer) and from time to time I go gear them up. Even that takes long enough time and would keep me entertained for weeks.
    Variant and Criterion dungeons don’t have much replayability, that’s true, but take fair amount of time too.
    When it comes to housing, I love decorating and keep redecorating my house, apartment, FC room, house of our FC and places of my friends and it’s an endless source of creative possibilities for me. That alone could entertain me for months even if there wouldn’t be anything else to do (which there is).

    Furthermore, I spend my time with my friends (it’s a MMO), we run maps, do glam contests etc.
    Then there’s the Island, which is meant to be a quiet space after an exhausting story of EW, and I just love coming back to it and enjoy the views or RP with friends (it’s a role playing game after all).

    PvP - Occasional CC to slowly rise to tank 25 for the glam keeps me busy for the entire time between patches (or the last few weeks before the next patch if I was focused on other content). There are also frequent Irregular Tomestones events (like now), which is a great time to play RW with FC friends.

    Tribal Quests are also stretched over decent amount of time, so that’s also a nice thing to do, with the current one being my all time favourite.

    I enjoy almost every aspect of the game, and often find myself rushing content, because there’s too much to do in the little time we have between patches. WoW used to not have major patches for as long as 8 months and that was hell, because apart from end game, there’s NOTHING to do in there if you want to stand a chance with finding a group of people willing to revisit older content like achievements etc.

    That’s the beauty of FF for me - it has constantly kept me occupied with relevant content, and if I was fed up with the “endgame” content and grind for gearing up, there was and still is a ton I can do outside of that and will always find people to form a party with.

    I play for 5-6 hours over work days and around 10 hours over weekends and not once I have bumped into a situation that I had nothing to do (even with currently live content).
    I'm just curious, but is your forum join date pretty close to when you started playing the game?
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  10. #20
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    LianaThorne's Avatar
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    Have you checked out Lost Ark? It seems like that would fit your style of always wanting something to grind everyday. I promise you, it would keep you busy.
    Nah, never caught my attention. I'm mainly shuffling between 14, BDO, 11 and ESO atm. Have someone trying to get me back into Warframe as well. Appreciate the suggestion though.
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