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    not even worth being called a relic
    its just a tome weapon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    On the contrary, there's older interviews stating that he wanted to hand it over to somebody else but couldn't find anyone able to take over. I'd wager he's there by contract not because he necessarily wants to be there but because the cult that has built up around him allows him to show up during a Live Letter to cheers from the crowd whilst being completely caught off-guard whenever a deep question makes it past the carefully curated Q&A sessions.

    He's probably getting funding for FFXVI on the condition that he keeps his name tied to FFXIV but it's clear that the former has not only taken talent away from the latter but seems to be much more of a passion project than FFXIV.

    Endwalker unceremoniously did away with large swathes of the ongoing story, after all and the guy doesn't seem to grasp that not everybody shares the same interests and personal tastes be it in regards to the story or in regards to actual content.
    Youre gonna have to link that interview because theres also an interview where he states that he doesnt plan on leaving FFXIV and that he'd fight for his position somehow. Its inconsistent information.


    Ill have to dig up where he said that too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    The question is what do you use the outcome for?
    Glams mostly, the appeal of relics to me has always been that they look nice, so I get them, that's all there is to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    On the contrary, there's older interviews stating that he wanted to hand it over to somebody else but couldn't find anyone able to take over.
    As long as he is needed and wanted, he wants to do it, but he was thinking about getting a portion of his job (such as the producer part that involves managing spreadsheets of people's daily tasks) to be done by someone else and I believe he has at least been training people in this area. Whether he'll actually hand it to them we'll see. Most likely it's just a backup scenario like it has been with the FF11 team where there was someone else doing part of the job who could take it over when they retired. A slow and seamless transition.

    I'd wager he's there by contract not because he necessarily wants to be there but because the cult that has built up around him
    There has to be a degree of that. That fame and fanfare acts as prison, because if you quit then you let everyone down and potentially doom all of your projects if the new producer and director is not very good (like the 1.0 one).

    He clarified that at this point, FFXIV is his life's work and we don't need to worry about him quitting as long as he's healthy. He said he hoped to be here for another 10 years if his health continues to allow, but you never know with that.

    being completely caught off-guard whenever a deep question makes it past the carefully curated Q&A sessions.
    That is true of the forum Q&As but he does hundreds of interviews with journalists and content creators where they are allowed to ask anything. At the media tour, he did something like 60-70 interviews (I linked a lot of them on the forums somewhere) and he said people were free to ask him anything, even things about himself unrelated to the game and popular FFXIV content creators asked a lot of their burning questions which have never seemed curated.

    it's clear that the former has not only taken talent away from the latter
    People started moving away to FF16 at the end of Heavensward. They have actually been working on it that long. So you would have to judge Stormblood and onwards as a lot of the content that was done after people started moving away.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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    So what's the point of relics anymore? No grind, no prestige, no incentive to do any content that isn't daily roulettes. Just hand some tomes to NPC and you're gucci.

    Did relics became just a weird alternative tome weapon which doesn't need brine to upgrade?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post
    So what's the point of relics anymore? No grind, no prestige, no incentive to do any content that isn't daily roulettes. Just hand some tomes to NPC and you're gucci.

    Did relics became just a weird alternative tome weapon which doesn't need brine to upgrade?

    They are just glam weapons. Almost always have been, aside from like, 2.0 lol, when they were mostly released in step with raid content.



    They haven't been anything but glam and grinds since 3.0 really.


    As for grinds, eureka was a fate grind for relic, and bozja was suffering. The tome grind is still a grind for anyone doing them all.



    Signed - person who did 3 arr relics while current, 5 hw relics while current, like 80% of a single eureka relic, all of the bozja relics.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 05-02-2023 at 01:44 AM.

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    Am I the only one who's glad to hear this? I never bothered getting the overly grindy ones, lol. But then again, I don't like the look of relic weapons (too fancy for my liking), I just want the higher ilvl. *shrugs*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    They are just glam weapons. Almost always have been, aside from like, 2.0 lol, when they were mostly released in step with raid content.



    They haven't been anything but glam and grinds since 3.0 really.


    As for grinds, eureka was a fate grind for relic, and bozja was suffering. The tome grind is still a grind for anyone doing them all.



    Signed - person who did 3 arr relics while current, 5 he relics while current, like 80% of a single eureka relic, all of the bozja relics.
    they still end up being the best weapon of the expansion
    And now with customizable sub stats they end up being better for older ultimate's with how stat scaling goes

    they might be just glam but so is everything at some point doesn't mean they should hand out TOP weapons
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    The next one will be different for sure.

    Last 2 steps were astronomy tomes

    Next will be causality

    If we can’t recognize this evolved step, we are lost as a community
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    It should cost tomestones of comedy instead of causality, it would fit perfectly with the questline surrounding it, or with the absolute state of the relic for that matter.
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