Mandeville Weapons will likely remain the same come 6.45 (Yoshida interview)

[Absimiliard]

I can only hope the backlash from EW's relics results in them going the FFXI route in 7.0. An excessively lengthy, costly, and difficult grind rewarded with incredibly powerful equipment is the way to go.

[Skivvy]

I can only hope the backlash from EW's relics results in them going the FFXI route in 7.0. An excessively lengthy, costly, and difficult grind rewarded with incredibly powerful equipment is the way to go.

Speaking of XI, they will be having their free login campaign starting in a couple of weeks for anyone who pokes around on there. The discount campaign will also be starting at that time, so if you've ever been curious, you can pick up the full game for $10.

I don't play XI much anymore, but whenever I do resub, I usually try to chip away at my yagrush (WHM relic). I love long grinds, and the steps in XI did actually get me into content that I pretty much ignored while I was playing the game constantly back in the day. There is nothing wrong with things taking time, including difficult steps or being costly (within reason).

[RyuDragnier]

Speaking of XI, they will be having their free login campaign starting in a couple of weeks for anyone who pokes around on there. The discount campaign will also be starting at that time, so if you've ever been curious, you can pick up the full game for $10.

To clarify on this, it starts May 12th at 1AM PST and ends May 22nd at 1AM PST. More info on the free login (for those who have played it) here.

[Skivvy]

To clarify on this, it starts May 12th at 1AM PST and ends May 22nd at 1AM PST. More info on the free login (for those who have played it) here.

Thank you Exact details would have been helpful to include. lol ><

Oh, and for the discount campaign, details here. The game is normally $30, but it will be on sale for $10 from May 12th - May 31st.

[Amenara]

To clarify on this, it starts May 12th at 1AM PST and ends May 22nd at 1AM PST. More info on the free login (for those who have played it) here.

Thanks for letting me know when to play some FF11 again

[aveyond-dreams]

I can only hope the backlash from EW's relics results in them going the FFXI route in 7.0. An excessively lengthy, costly, and difficult grind rewarded with incredibly powerful equipment is the way to go.

I'm very much in support of this, especially the added battle effects FFXI relics have that actually have a tangible effect on gameplay besides just dealing more damage. A pity that this game has stripped so much away like the old AST cards in pursuit of something so short-sighted.

amazing. this expac never ceases to disappoint with its ever increasing mediocrity.

Endwalker has truly walked FFXIV to its end. For those of us who cared for the game part of the game at least.

[Skivvy]

I'm very much in support of this, especially the added battle effects FFXI relics have that actually have a tangible effect on gameplay besides just dealing more damage. A pity that this game has stripped so much away like the old AST cards in pursuit of something so short-sighted.



Endwalker has truly walked FFXIV to its end. For those of us who cared for the game part of the game at least.

The bonuses/effects on XI relics would never work in this game because our combat is so dumbed down. While I would love some complexity and depth in this game, I think they've made it pretty clear that that isn't the type of game they're going for. I feel like they've really sealed their fate for ever being able to shift out of the mundane. :/

[rainichan]

I can only hope the backlash from EW's relics results in them going the FFXI route in 7.0. An excessively lengthy, costly, and difficult grind rewarded with incredibly powerful equipment is the way to go.

Man, I remember the ARR Zeta grind and people complaining it was too much and XI players going "This is nothing" lmao. We're coming full circle, going from "it's too grindy" to "it's not grindy enough" now and people asking for it to be more of a grind again... devs really can't win here. "It's too grindy and hard to get my weapon" for 4 xpacs and so now that it's "FINE, IS THIS TOO GRINDY???" it's not enough, but they also didn't have to go full scorched earth, so to speak.

They do need to find a balance though; I think Bozja was a great balance between grinding and having multiple ways to get item drops, but tbf, "more of the same" doesn't necessarily mean "it's going to be another 1500 tomes" (please don't prove me wrong devs, I would also like something else, especially when the talk of EW relics was "it'll be more like the ARR relic in terms of getting it" had me interested in the how) but... we'll see in 3-ish months I suppose. Talking about it so early is just going to get people speculating for much too long about the how and why of what it's going to be, and people are only going to get more angry about it despite not knowing anything but something vague.

[Remish]

Man, I remember the ARR Zeta grind and people complaining it was too much and XI players going "This is nothing" lmao. We're coming full circle, going from "it's too grindy" to "it's not grindy enough" now and people asking for it to be more of a grind again... devs really can't win here. "It's too grindy and hard to get my weapon" for 4 xpacs and so now that it's "FINE, IS THIS TOO GRINDY???" it's not enough, but they also didn't have to go full scorched earth, so to speak.

They do need to find a balance though; I think Bozja was a great balance between grinding and having multiple ways to get item drops, but tbf, "more of the same" doesn't necessarily mean "it's going to be another 1500 tomes" (please don't prove me wrong devs, I would also like something else, especially when the talk of EW relics was "it'll be more like the ARR relic in terms of getting it" had me interested in the how) but... we'll see in 3-ish months I suppose. Talking about it so early is just going to get people speculating for much too long about the how and why of what it's going to be, and people are only going to get more angry about it despite not knowing anything but something vague.

Bozja was great during it's peak. Late in the expansion after people were phasing out and especially now if people want to go back and grind it, it's a pain the ass and extremely difficult since it relied on others. These exploration zones would probably be better if every activity within could be done solo in every possible way.

[Shougun]

Bozja was great during it's peak. Late in the expansion after people were phasing out and especially now if people want to go back and grind it, it's a pain the ass and extremely difficult since it relied on others. These exploration zones would probably be better if every activity within could be done solo in every possible way.

Definitely imo, although I feel they could present an interesting content for blue mage (and with the auto buff system may mean solo-able just by letting them in).

If progress on relics can be done with blue mage, could be a fun thing to do and potentially learn skills from.