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    White Mage Lv 100
    For the record, Ty's survey, as of this writing - Healers in each category that did NOT want more attack actions for a given Job:

    WHM: 26 / 159 (>16%) [16.35...%]
    SCH: 29 / 172 (>16%) [16.86...%] *
    AST: 55 / 162 (>33%) [33.95...%]
    SGE: 17 / 132 (>12%) [12.8787...%]

    TOTAL 1: 20.32%
    TOTAL 2: 15.68%**

    **[EDIT: As per the later discussion, 7 SCHs actually directly answered they want LESS healing actions, meaning Total 2's minimum value is actually 16.8%, not 15.68%. So even at the minimum estimate, it is at least 1/6th of overall survey responses that are not in favor of more attack actions per their answers.]

    * SCH is weird since some people didn't say more attack actions, but kind of indicated in their posts they wanted some, but others said they didn't, and either didn't put in a long form answer, or indicated in their long form they didn't want more. A LOT wanted Energy Drain decoupled from Aetherflow (or outright removed) [even some people who DID want more attack actions]. One even said make SCH like SB and that it was perfect (while NOT selecting add more actions), while another said DON'T make SCH a clone of SB. So the answers are kind of all over the place, so I'm including it as a lower and upper bound.

    Total 1 is including ALL the SCH answers, Total 2 is including NONE of them (but still using +172 in the denominator; in other words, pretending all the SCH players DID, in fact, want more damage actions - which is highly unlikely)

    [EDIT: To be clear, this was true across the Jobs, but PARTICULARLY prevalent with SCH. Few SGEs held the position in the first place, with most seeming to want more damage abilities and not being a SCH clone, while ASTs seemed to want more buffs all around, and across all the Healers there seemed to be a lot of desire for buffing and movement options overall. The non-SCHs I'm not as worried about here, though, since you also had people say "more attack actions" which their long form then clarified as they meant "earlier access to Misery" as opposed to more actions, so I think we can say those probably even out except in the peculiar case of SCH itself, hence Total 1 and Total 2 above.

    Also note that the number who don't want more attack actions MAY be higher than this, given the weirdness of the early time the poll was up (some even said "I don't want to pick more, but I have to pick something, so..." or the like), and that some clarified "more attack" meant "early access to existing attack buttons". And, of course, that this community is more in favor of adding attack actions than not with some selection bias there. But while it may be higher than Total 1, it should not be LOWER than Total 2.]

    The total is between 1/6th and 1/5th of Healers do not want more DPS actions. SPECIFICALLY in the case of AST, 1/3rd do not want more DPS actions - even a lot of people asking for more damage actions were complaining about button bloat.

    And again, note that this is from a community that is very much in favor of more damage actions. I think there's more than enough there to justify that at least one Healer Job should NOT be made more DPS focused overall. This is assuming they WERE going to change them to be more DPS focused in the first place (which the Devs have given no indication of). Even in the worst case scenario, 1/6 is still a sizeable minority of the population, and using the more realistic 1/5 would suggest that if there were 5 Healer Jobs (or 4 Healer Jobs but one had two STANCES - like AST, for example...), at least one of those not being DPS focused would be fully justified.
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