Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

[Pip_Chick]

I have been playing around with my female Roe alt. And I found some very nice heavy armor glam as well as the Aglaia healing and ranged set that look amazing on her. I can't wait to finally have female Hrothgar in the game and discover what galm suits these ladies best!

[MonsutaMan]

Honestly, I want a proper pet class, now that they took that away from Summoner. Beastmaster or some type of druid would be nice. Maybe have it be a mix of Geomancer and Beastmaster.
Then again, we'll probably get something else completely different anyway, so no point on hyping myself up for nothing.

Unpopular opinion, but I still feel they could simply allow mounts to be used as battle companions in the open world instead of adding a class. I am a career BST in XI & would have zero issue with this.

BST is in a lose, lose situation. Many want it limited, many do not. BLU ALL OVER AGAIN........

MMO need to think outside the box, instead using "Class" to define every playstyle.

[Pip_Chick]

Unpopular opinion, but I still feel they could simply allow mounts to be used as battle companions in the open world instead of adding a class. I am a career BST in XI & would have zero issue with this.

BST is in a lose, lose situation. Many want it limited, many do not. BLU ALL OVER AGAIN........

MMO need to think outside the box, instead using "Class" to define every playstyle.

A pet class would be nice if it is well-implemented. I had a concept some time ago for something Mammeteer-like that would work in tandem with their pet like Ranjit does when you fight him.

My concept was for a female Hrothgar Priestess, the weapon would be prayer beads acting as a conduit to call forward a pet (the stronger the conduit, the stronger the pet) and the rotation would be a combination of the Priest and pet abilities. Working as a duo and taking turns to attack. The origin of the art could have risen from the shrine maidens, them all being priestesses, but also able to fight if need be. And since they always had the beads of hand, they started to use them with some old mammets or sentinels and command them as makeshift soldiers. I personally think a set of prayer beads would be a cool starting point for a weapon, and a priestess being the user would just make sense IMO.

[ejunniim]

Official artwork.

Ehem! Of course I was late to height of the party, but there is one nuance, which is (as seemed to me?), was not mentioned with concepts on the last pages here. Not at all Queens were hrothgar.
The fact is that: they were chosen based of criteria, and race was NOT one of them. Just a significant number of locals there were hroth, but... it's still Ilsabard. There were miqo'te! And we know at least one queen who was neither one nor the other.
Do not exclude that this concept refers to the frescoes and does not give us a "complete" representation. I also find intriguing the way how all shrinemaidens who can become queens, and the Queen herself - since we remembered that! - are depicted with blue paint. This may make sense, given their abilities, yet be a purely symbolic point.

[XianRo]

deleeted prev bc I was much to negative and off topic tbh
Anyway the most realistic expectations for femgar?
They, being based on femroe (please pay attention to mgar being reused mroe assets and a femroe being a standin for an ACTUAL bozjan queen) will be bulky...ish. They will be the same min/max height as mgar, and will probably only have 8 racial styles despite viera having 12 because being creative with your 1 (uno) nonhuman race is HARD.
Negative: even by 7.0 despite there being mgar in gangos with nonfacelocked hairs, they somehow will not have this fixed for players so in fairness femgar will also be facelocked.
Positive: Femgar will get access to more mogstation hair options on release bc they havent designed male specific hairs for mogstation since THANCRED in hw.
Negative for mgar: femgar have to be cute to appeal to the Lowest Common Denominator so they will have humanoid heads and thereby have hat access. You may ask "but viera cant wear hats" aaah but you see the only fantasy-trait viera have is their ears (no little bunny tails because......ok) and since 80% of hats lob off Miqote ears, viera will never have hats because they arent going to make earholes for viera if they cant do it for half of all pc's in the game.

[Pip_Chick]

deleeted prev bc I was much to negative and off topic tbh
Anyway the most realistic expectations for femgar?
They, being based on femroe (please pay attention to mgar being reused mroe assets and a femroe being a standin for an ACTUAL bozjan queen) will be bulky...ish. They will be the same min/max height as mgar, and will probably only have 8 racial styles despite viera having 12 because being creative with your 1 (uno) nonhuman race is HARD.
Negative: even by 7.0 despite there being mgar in gangos with nonfacelocked hairs, they somehow will not have this fixed for players so in fairness femgar will also be facelocked.
Positive: Femgar will get access to more mogstation hair options on release bc they havent designed male specific hairs for mogstation since THANCRED in hw.
Negative for mgar: femgar have to be cute to appeal to the Lowest Common Denominator so they will have humanoid heads and thereby have hat access. You may ask "but viera cant wear hats" aaah but you see the only fantasy-trait viera have is their ears (no little bunny tails because......ok) and since 80% of hats lob off Miqote ears, viera will never have hats because they arent going to make earholes for viera if they cant do it for half of all pc's in the game.

This is pretty much what I expect, but God do I wish for better on both male Hrothgar and female Hrothgar sides. At least a decoupleing of hairstyles from faces by 7.0

[Turnintino]

(no little bunny tails because......ok)

Apologies for derailing the topic about an aside on viera tails lol but I gotta say that I'm pretty sure the rationale here was that... they just don't have tails in any of the Ivalice games to begin with (the closest they came were the ornamental "tails" tacked onto their bodices in FFXII).

That said, I'm pretty sure there was concept art that did show they considered tails at some point during development despite that, so maybe they were just pretending they gave a shit about the inevitable clipping issues it would've created.

[VeyaAkemi]

Vieras never had tails, and they originate from a sprite graphics turn-based strategy game, where clipping is literally impossible because all sprites were hand-made, while the point around hats is indeed BS and most people would be happier if they just let ears clip through hats regardless of how they looked, the point about tails isn't really about caring or not caring about clipping.

They also had more bestial hands and feet in concept art, though this was also inconsistent, their claw-like hands remained in the default race concept art, but they were gone from the concept art of some Viera-exclusive jobs like Summoner, so I suppose even back then, you are supposed to understand that the claw-like hands are something they can trim down.

[Turnintino]

I wasn't suggesting clipping was an issue in the FFT games lol. The concept art I was referring to was for FFXIV, which is where clipping could conceivably be a concern.

[Pip_Chick]

I apreciate the enthusiasm for Viera having/not having tails and claws. But let's not derail a female Hrothgar thread for that. (Let's not derail any thread for that. Just make a new one if you want to discuss it)
I do like viera, especially after making an alt that is one. But my hope for this thread is to be consistent on the topic. We got their confirmation that they are making them, that was great news, could have been better with some concept art as well, just saying...
But at this point in time, there is no need to argue over their appearance. Their models are most likely done and their animations are going through the possibly last touches. I know how I want them to look and am pretty sure everyone else has a mental image of them. All we can do is wait for the reveal. And while I am completely conscious that we might get the art of The Queen in the book, I prefer to belive that SE has heard us and has seen the amazing fan art that the comynity has made. And possibly changed direction with them to adjust them to more of what the people want.
A part of me has this head cannon that this is why they didn't release toghether with male Viera, they saw what the comunity wanted and pulled it back to make adjustments. But again, no proof, just a head cannon.