Are there any plans to fix the 'Haurchefant' localization?

[Iyrnthota]

I don't perceive it as a predator, I recognize that it's a common trope in Japanese media and much of his advances are done for the sake of comedy, as he's a comic relief character which contrasts, and compliments the cold, political, drab, and dreary atmosphere of HW's setting and storyline.

I also wouldn't have perceived it as 'transactional', he seemed like he genuinely wanted to help, and likely would have done so irrespective of his sexual preferences or motivated actions. In a serious or non-comedic context, he's designed to be caring and helpful, as well as funny, and he makes his sexual preferences known and are merely a part of his character, not defined by it. The trope he embodies isn't intended to be perceived as 'serious' or 'sincere' within these contexts.

That being said, I heavily disagree with your take that he would have 'taken advantage' of the WoL. All of such advances would have been perceived as comedic, and were depicted in a comedic context.

I think it's just down to what one considers comedic then.

Someone brought up Jiraiya from Naruto earlier and I think he's a good example, cause I can clearly see from the framing of his character and how others react that he's supposed to be comedic, but by god I fucking hate him.
To me he isn't funny, he's just a pervert and a predator that in any decent society would have been locked up years ago.

I don't think JP Hauchefaunt is that bad clearly, but it embodies the same trope, and it's just one I can't stand. I don't really care that it's "meant" to be funny, cause to me it just isn't.

[Ravenblade1979]

PSA: this is a troll thread. stop feeding the troll.

[Telkira]

PSA: this is a troll thread. stop feeding the troll.

Not every thread that you disagree with is a troll thread. People have opinions, and then people have opinions that are nuanced.

[Ravenblade1979]

Not every thread that you disagree with is a troll thread. People have opinions.

alrighty i will feed you just this one ok but after that you have to count on others too. fact: you are horny for og haurchefant and want to subject the world to him and have the whole world be ok with the trope although every country is different. fact: you try to sound smart by bringing up artistic integrity but are very clueless as to how the video game industry actually works. fact: what is normal in japan isn't in the rest of the world. that would be like saying you want the values of the arab nation added to the game or hitlers regime added to the game (although in a small way this actually was if you know the cutscene i refer too). fact: this is a tired troll. fact: you have no legit argument on your side and everyone who is against this is just "wrong" in your books and they should suck it up and like it.

Reality: this will never happen and im done feeding you now. get a life, go touch grass, get a significant other who can please you sexually. do anything else other then troll the forums because you bored.

[Atelier-Bagur]

I would genuinely prefer all the jokes to be exactly how they appear in the JP version, even if much of them wouldn't land. For those who don't get the puns or references that Koji Fox likes to vomit into the game, they're just names and flavor text. That says more about the prospect of relying on references as humor, if anything, but my point still largely stands.

But as for their localization approach? Most of it is largely based on making sure that no two regions get different experiences. Swapping out JP jokes and references for EN-centric ones is forgivable, but doing more than what is justified, and straying too far from the original intentions by the writers, worldbuilders, etc) like what the Haurchefant fiasco was isn't 'localization'. It's censorship, plain and simple.

I would love for SE to do something like this:
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...btitles-option

Yet nobody but you actually cares for the change. Theres so much heinous changes of translation that actually damages story scripts and intentions in other rpgs much worse yet you saying that Glenn Haurchefaunt Quagmire is among them has got to be the funniest and most out of touch thing Ive heard somebody trying to seriously argue for.

Literally nobody cares, the general audience whom managed to realize the original context doesnt care and honestly it helped make the character less of a stereotype

[Restonance]

I'm sorry, people actually want the creep that is JP Haurchefant? Why?

[Telkira]

alrighty i will feed you just this one ok but after that you have to count on others too. fact: you are horny for og haurchefant and want to subject the world to him and have the whole world be ok with the trope although every country is different. fact: you try to sound smart by bringing up artistic integrity but are very clueless as to how the video game industry actually works. fact: what is normal in japan isn't in the rest of the world. that would be like saying you want the values of the arab nation added to the game or hitlers regime added to the game (although in a small way this actually was if you know the cutscene i refer too). fact: this is a tired troll. fact: you have no legit argument on your side and everyone who is against this is just "wrong" in your books and they should suck it up and like it.

Reality: this will never happen and im done feeding you now. get a life, go touch grass, get a significant other who can please you sexually. do anything else other then troll the forums because you bored.

I'm not 'too horny' for anything.
I've made my case for retaining artistic and literary integrity for the product ad nauseam, yet you continue to mischaracterize my posts as about 'forcing values' when it's not about that. That type of argument isn't even rationally based, it's a Japanese game. You're consuming a Japanese game. If you seriously expect to have anything but that, then you're better off going elsewhere.
You shouldn't watch anime and get mad when they're all dining on noodles and naruto rolls and not hamburgers and jelly doughnuts, you shouldn't even expect that.
It's a distinct type of content whose very motif is grounded and molded by the culture that produced it.

These same types of arguments apply to FFXIV.

As for literally everything else in your post, I can safely ignore it because I've already addressed much of it in previous posts, and your "go touch grass" insult leaves the quality of your rebuttal in a non-existent state.

[RyuDragnier]

I'm sorry, people actually want the creep that is JP Haurchefant? Why?

Puritans. You know, the people who scream if there's the slightest bit of change to a game as censorship. Like the whole face touching thing in Fire Emblem Fates. It's creepy as hell in the west because you don't just touch people's faces like that, which is why they took it out for the west. But the puritans screamed at the top of their lungs about it.

[Telkira]

Yet nobody but you actually cares for the change. Theres so much heinous changes of translation that actually damages story scripts and intentions in other rpgs much worse yet you saying that Glenn Haurchefaunt Quagmire is among them has got to be the funniest and most out of touch thing Ive heard somebody trying to seriously argue for.

Literally nobody cares, the general audience whom managed to realize the original context doesnt care and honestly it helped make the character less of a stereotype

This is wrong. It was actually a massive uproar within the community about this deviation, to which SE's own localization team had to come out publicly and acknowledge that it was the wrong decision to take, both from a matter of internal procedure and deliberation, to the change itself.

"Theres so much heinous changes of translation that actually damages story scripts and intentions in other rpgs much worse yet you saying that Glenn Haurchefaunt Quagmire is among them has got to be the funniest and most out of touch thing Ive heard somebody trying to seriously argue for."
It's all the same issue culminating from the same broader issue. There are aspects of the change which impact more than just a few funny jokes, it actively impacts how these scenes were written and intended to be received by the original Japanese writers. Overarching mood and pacing is something that has to be considered and planned, and if one thing is altered or removed, it can have a negative impact on the flow of the entire thing.

Much of HW is boring. It is designed to be that way. It grounds itself on politics and intrigue and is perhaps set in one of the most colorless and drab environments in the game, and much of that is intended or outright considered by the designers who work in tandem with the narrative builders. Having "Glenn Haurchefant Quagmire" act the way he does actually throws much of it off and feels like 'emotional relief' rather than comedic relief, which can work when taken into account, but ultimately falls flat when not warranted, which here it wasn't.

He had LITERALLY zero reason to care, to be a 'bro', he is never asked "hey why are you like this", but if his sexual proclivities are there, at least he has something resembling a motivation to help, if not the character's implicit obligations and other facets which ground his character.

I can understand not being amused by it, and there are people who think the character is ruined by it, but that's an extreme position. He's not ruined by this, even among those standards. He's not overshadowed nor defined by it, and in his characterization in the JP script, that point is extremely clear.

[Nessun]

the only people who are professionally qualified to dictate what is appropriate for a culture are licensed journalists, who are taught to be the gatekeepers of information for a country or community
translators have no business being journalists.

What on earth is a "licensed journalist" ?????