why the crystal tower raids are still part of the roulette?

[FudoMyoo]

why the crystal tower raids are still part of the roulette?

Why not? I love it.

[Iyrnthota]

Yes, you do, and my solution to that is to simply not participate in the roulette in any capacity - I won't even be found doing alliance raid roulette even when the level cap is increased.

This point, however, does not detract from the seriously poor decision-making they've done.

People have proposed numerous potential solutions in this thread and others like it across the internet, but so far I've seen no compelling solution that does not cause problems elsewhere.
I would say that their decision making is not poor, but merely not to your liking.

[Pratini]

Good week!

[Chloe_Saunders]

*sigh* no signs of braincells I guess

[VeyaAkemi]

just make the other alliance raids required for msq parts and there you go proplem solved

I actually am a proponent of making all Alliance Raids(and all Normal Raids) mandatory for MSQ, but it's something that people speak against every time it's suggested.

[Avatre]

I actually am a proponent of making all Alliance Raids(and all Normal Raids) mandatory for MSQ, but it's something that people speak against every time it's suggested.

I wouldn't say make them required for MSQ, but make them required for the roulette. As long as your character has a class at level 60, you must have Mhach unlocked, 70 must have Ivalice, and so on until they stop adding alliance raids. Since leveling roulette works on the same principle as what I'm saying(only those duties you are of a sufficient level to access are relevant for the class currently queued as). They would, of course, need to remove the ability to ilvl cheese it.

[Iyrnthota]

I actually am a proponent of making all Alliance Raids(and all Normal Raids) mandatory for MSQ, but it's something that people speak against every time it's suggested.

I think my primary objection would be that the rest of them aren't integrated into the main story as much as CT, so they're really more side quests than main story quests.

Nier in particular.

[Iyrnthota]

I wouldn't say make them required for MSQ, but make them required for the roulette. As long as your character has a class at level 60, you must have Mhach unlocked, 70 must have Ivalice, and so on until they stop adding alliance raids. Since leveling roulette works on the same principle as what I'm saying(only those duties you are of a sufficient level to access are relevant for the class currently queued as). They would, of course, need to remove the ability to ilvl cheese it.

I would say that would be only minimally effective, as it targets only a very niche sub group of people "forcing" CT. That being players queuing into Araid Roulette with a 60+ character who only have CT unlocked.

It will still miss all the people who are 50 - 60 queuing for tomes/xp, or sprouts doing CT first time, which imo are the greater proportion of players.

Similarly I think that ilvl cheesers are also a very small sub-group, and efforts to prevent them would also be minimal.

I don't have any data to back this proportions up mind, just my own personal experiences.

[VeyaAkemi]

I think my primary objection would be that the rest of them aren't integrated into the main story as much as CT, so they're really more side quests than main story quests.

YoshiP has brought up bringing Gaia back into the story before, which would make the Eden raids hyper-relevant to even know who Gaia is, which is a similar case to what happened to CT, so I wonder how they will handle that if that happens.

I wouldn't say make them required for MSQ, but make them required for the roulette. As long as your character has a class at level 60, you must have Mhach unlocked, 70 must have Ivalice, and so on until they stop adding alliance raids.

Okay but what about people who can't unlock those raids? it's very very veeeeeeeeeery easy to overlevel past your MSQ level, especially if you start on a New/Preferred Server and get Road to 80, so you can easily be in a position where all jobs you have interest in are level 70+ but you are still mid-HW, so I don't think it's a viable solution...

[Iyrnthota]

YoshiP has brought up bringing Gaia back into the story before, which would make the Eden raids hyper-relevant to even know who Gaia is, which is a similar case to what happened to CT, so I wonder how they will handle that if that happens.

Same. I would be kind of up for it tbh.

I do wonder how much more tweaking they'll be doing to the current MSQ though. If 7.0 is going to be a brand new story, and possibly a new "starting point" for new players, part of me wonders if this introduction of the Trust system to all the MSQ dungeons is sort of the last big push to make it as single player friendly as possible before leaving that part of the story alone and focusing entirely on the new stuff.