Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent. 2.0

[SannaR]

I mean why not? it's not even a waste of MP considering that Healers have more MP than they need as is short of needing to Res spam, and sometimes it's just ensurance, I often rip aggro from the Tank during the run because I will attack while running, and Akh Morn/Technical Step have a thicc enough potency that it can easily rip away the aggro because the Tank likely hit the pack once, it's never really a problem because I can rely on the Tank to pick aggro back as soon as we stop, but if the SGE wants to dedicate an Eukrasian Diagnosis to me, I will welcome it.

Not everyone plays as a phys ranged, a smn, or a monk. Getting told X isn't within range as a melee while trying to attack and run at the same time is not going to grab enough agro. Heck even when I'm on those jobs I tend to not attack while moving cause I know that I'll most likely rip hate off and I'd rather not waste time waiting for random tank I'm running with to recollect crap.

[VeyaAkemi]

Not everyone plays as a phys ranged, a smn, or a monk.

It's always an option to just Sprint, which will make you run faster than the mobs for 20 seconds, so long as you hit it before entering combat, and allow you to AoE run as any job, if anything I find it more awkward to AoE run with jobs that have targeted line or cone AoEs, because you need to be a specific position relative to the pack for it to be effective, two of which are ranged(MCH and BRD), tho I guess SAM has a cone before level 82, and RPR is weirdly mixed with Gluttony, Grim Swathe, Guillotine, Plentiful Harvest, and Enshroud-related actions being targeted lines or cones, which sounds like a lot but still gives you the option to use just Whorl of Death+Scythe actions while running, and absolutely go nuts when you stop, which does sound like a fun way to handle it...

[SannaR]

It's always an option to just Sprint, which will make you run faster than the mobs for 20 seconds, so long as you hit it before entering combat, and allow you to AoE run as any job, if anything I find it more awkward to AoE run with jobs that have targeted line or cone AoEs, because you need to be a specific position relative to the pack for it to be effective, two of which are ranged(MCH and BRD), tho I guess SAM has a cone before level 82, and RPR is weirdly mixed with Gluttony, Grim Swathe, Guillotine, Plentiful Harvest, and Enshroud-related actions being targeted lines or cones, which sounds like a lot but still gives you the option to use just Whorl of Death+Scythe actions while running, and absolutely go nuts when you stop, which does sound like a fun way to handle it...

You can't perform most of those unless you have a target selected and even while sprinting you will still get the X is still too far away even if the mob is right next to you. Then a lot of aoe on melee are conal or a straight line. Except for monk where the majority of their aoe isn't conal or linear. Swathe is conal, plentiful harvest is linear and you're not always going to have it proced, guillotine is a cleave in-front of you so not always best to use while running. Even if it works like Drg aoe where it'll hit stuff as long as it's in your hitbox still not worth it imo to be using while running.

Edit: also again what's the point of having the shield or regen if it's not doing their job? Until the tank stops the mobs are probably not hitting me so they're healing nothing and shielding me from nothing. They're not going to give that sage a use of Toxikon. I also know how to shield myself or self sustain hopefully long enough for the tank to regain any hate they might have lost.

[NekoMataMata]

So I don't really get thrown into sub level 50 dungeons that much anymore but this one annoyed me a little.

Both DPS + the tank are sprouts, with the tank being the only one getting CS. Tank only pulls one pack at a time, no mitigations, and single targets, but again, this is sub level 50, and the tank is clearly new.

Would I like for things to go faster? Well, yes, but the reason above is good enough for me to be patient. The NIN on the other hand has enough of it after the second boss. No Arms Length, the NIN rushes forward yoinking the second half of the pull W2W and tries to drag it into the boss room. Immediately backs out because while the tank followed and slowly attacked everything one by one to take aggro, the tank refused to enter the boss room.

I know someone will complain about me being an enabler or whatever, but it's a low level dungeon with a brand new sprout that didn't ask for my advice. Don't really want to deal with them getting upset if I give it.

Oh and also did b2b alliance raids roulettes before and after daily reset. Both times were CT and both times we had nearly half the raid immediately quit out at the start. I get that some people hate CT. I'd love to see Nier or SB raids, but seriously don't just abandon half the alliance.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Had one of those Chrysalis again w/ my cohealer friend where we met an unsuspecting DPS who tried to LB3 Nabriales. By 'one of those' I mean, a time when I and my cohealer friend coordinated our Rescue uses to deny said DPS from using LB3 on anything but the Aetherial Tear.

I get it, the tear is fairly easy to burst without LB3. But when shoved the options to pick between trusting pugs to press their buttons correctly for extended time vs letting one of them press 1 sweet LB3? I prefer the latter, thanks. Sorry not sorry.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

To that Alpha Legend SGE in WoD…

I saw you there, picking up one of cerberus’ chain.
I saw you there, holding said chain hostage & jumping around aimlessly.
I saw you there, never made any attempt to re-acquire your chain when the buff falls.

I ain’t gonna deal with that $h!t. I don’t know what were you thinking, but I’m well prepared for this. Camped on your chain long ago to grab it as soon as yours falls off to attach it myself.

Mission Accomplished.

Ah yes, I also saw you briefly targeting me as well when I’ve managed to reattached your chain. Remember that people do watch.

[SannaR]

To that Alpha Legend SGE in WoD…

I saw you there, picking up one of cerberus’ chain.
I saw you there, holding said chain hostage & jumping around aimlessly.
I saw you there, never made any attempt to re-acquire your chain when the buff falls.

I ain’t gonna deal with that $h!t. I don’t know what were you thinking, but I’m well prepared for this. Camped on your chain long ago to grab it as soon as yours falls off to attach it myself.

Mission Accomplished.

Ah yes, I also saw you briefly targeting me as well when I’ve managed to reattached your chain. Remember that people do watch.

You do know that there are times when the contact point is hard to target, right? Also you kinda sound a little petty. Don't get me wrong I also don't enjoy those who purposely wait til the last second to attach the chain. Course it's fairly obvious when that's what is happening.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

You do know that there are times when the contact point is hard to target, right? Also you kinda sound a little petty. Don't get me wrong I also don't enjoy those who purposely wait til the last second to attach the chain. Course it's fairly obvious when that's what is happening.

Probably I should elaborate clearer next time: what I witnessed was anything but "This is so hard to target!!"-situation. They were jumping around aimlessly -not anywhere in range to interact with the contact point-. If they were trying to target the contact point, logically they would've wandered toward that point & stopping once in a while, not keep jumping (we can't attach it while jumping, yes? lmao).

If that sounded petty, that's because it's a vent, in a vent thread. Everytime I zone into WoD's Cerberus fight I'm always watchful to prevent chain enrage thanks to (relatively) too many times wipes happening 'cause people were holding the chain for whatever reason: I will focus target anybody who has the chain to watch their buff timer and cast bar whenever chain goes out.

[Renalt]

This might be a Lamia thing but man are tanks allergic to using role defenses. They all single pull and they all refuse to use role defenses. Yeah im low level doing ARR dungeons but if a 90 tank is dying quickly to a single pull...something is wrong.

3 out of 4 tanks suck.

What's going on Lamia? Well not just Lamia...the data server it is on.

[Cincierta]

This might be a Lamia thing but man are tanks allergic to using role defenses. They all single pull and they all refuse to use role defenses. Yeah im low level doing ARR dungeons but if a 90 tank is dying quickly to a single pull...something is wrong.

3 out of 4 tanks suck.

What's going on Lamia? Well not just Lamia...the data server it is on.

I've noticed it on not just Lamia. You've probably encountered the string of no-mit tanks I've dealt with in the past couple months before I pulled out of solo roulette. And it's not just tanks too. I've noticed healers and dps not using the better parts of their job kits in most dungeons.