The TT card in Eureka orthos

[Nezerius]

It cannot be just tagged. that's the big difference. You can just tag for the thing and run it, and stop when you have enough of it. Here you have to be ready to invest yourself for a several hours runs with people. If you can do it with people you know, you can do it in several session. If you have to use pf, here becomes the annoyance. If we could just tag for thoses floors, it would be fine to me. The difference is the accessibility of the content. But no, you have to make premade, and if not lucky, one of the guy leaves you after floor 30 because you're too slow. You can't ask random people to come back next week because you want to stop for now. The farm itself was never the problem.

To me, this is closer to getting some of the worst field notes in bozja, with the difference that in bozja, everyone plays the same way. If you feel the need to leave, because you don't like your party, are tired, or whatever the reason, you don't penalize everyone.

First of all, what do you mean with tag/tagged?

Why do you need several hours to run floor 21-40? Starting at floor 1 is only a hard requirement for the solo achievement.

People choose the weirdest things to be elitist about. Triple Triad among all things. A 3-star Triple Triad card!
"Wadayamean you wanna play TT to get dem TT cardz? Git gud kidz Imma break muh extra copies to make ya'll mad cuz I'm mean like that mwhehehe and I hope next time yoship makes ya'll lazy casuals clear the whole thing to get dem materias and prisms mwahaha Triple Triad is serious business"

Triple Triad can be played just fine without this card.

There's nothing weird about completionism of any collection taking a bit of a grind, at times. Especially when it's from content that's not even two weeks old.

[AetherHale]

I really don't get why people are complaining about this one but are ignoring the card thats in hydatos? The cards lose the sense of rarity if theyre easier to just grab willy nilly. Think of them like pseudo achievements for some people.

[GTK0HLK]

People choose the weirdest things to be elitist about. Triple Triad among all things. A 3-star Triple Triad card!
"Wadayamean you wanna play TT to get dem TT cardz? Git gud kidz Imma break muh extra copies to make ya'll mad cuz I'm mean like that mwhehehe and I hope next time yoship makes ya'll lazy casuals clear the whole thing to get dem materias and prisms mwahaha Triple Triad is serious business"

You're exaggerating over a non-issue.., it's not like it takes forever to reach floor 100 either.

it's really basically a guaranteed drop if you do it enough, or do Aether runs to get people in on PF..,

And no one here was being elitist..,

[at most, they'd joke about how simple it is..,]

[CNitsah]

First of all, what do you mean with tag/tagged?

Sorry, I used a term used in my language. I thought it was an english mmo expression that we adopted, but it seems I was wrong. I meant party-matching, so you can do 10 floor then stop and continue another day if you want without forcing my teammates to begin anew.

I really don't get why people are complaining about this one but are ignoring the card thats in hydatos? The cards lose the sense of rarity if theyre easier to just grab willy nilly. Think of them like pseudo achievements for some people.

Hydatos cards are easy to get. Even a blind monkey with no hand could get them with enough time. That's the difference. there is no matter of fixed party. You want to stop, you can stop and come back another day without forcing all your crewmates to begin from scratch. I'm missing just a few cards, and except maybe the Masked Carnivale one, none of them frustrated me as much as this one. So no, taking a long time is not a problem here. The global restriction of 2 saves in deep dungeons and the abscence of party-matching make running the content frustrating for casual players.

Now, I didn't know they added another mean to get card another way with previous deep dungeons(because I wasn't there yet at the previous deep dungeons), this is good news (even if a part of me still think "Yeah, and if they don't, you'll have to find a party in six month and it's gonna be far worse.").

Anyway, my point is not "I want less grind", it is "I don't mind the grind, as long as the access to it is pretty straightforward, and here it's not."

[Deceptus]

The cards lose the sense of rarity if theyre easier to just grab willy nilly..

You want a sense of "pride and accomplishment" with that sense of rarity?

[dspguy]

I really don't get why people are complaining about this one but are ignoring the card thats in hydatos? The cards lose the sense of rarity if theyre easier to just grab willy nilly. Think of them like pseudo achievements for some people.

In many cases, SE changes how obtain items after the content is aged out. For example, the day before the next expansion comes out, it will still require ~5000 capped tomestones and some combination of 25000 hunt nuts or savage raids or nearly a dozen of each 24-man raids to gear up a character to presumably i660. The day the expansion comes out, that same gear is only ~4000 uncapped tomestones with no need to run hunts, 24-man, etc.

Crafting lets you use Trained Eye for any craft 10 levels below you.

Relic steps are commonly nerfed when it is "two steps" behind.

Certain achievements/items can become trivial by the fact that the player is 10-20 levels higher than when the content first came out.

The list goes on. I don't see why TT cards should be treated any differently. If a player completes the content but is unable to obtain the card due to bad RNG, it should eventually be moved outside the zone. I wouldn't mind seeing this done for stuff like SB or ShB cards from trials. If you have the clear for extreme and it is 2 expansions old (in the case of SB), put it on an NPC already.

Keep the current difficulty for TT cards in EW and ShB.

[CNitsah]

So now that I have done floor 50, 60 and 70 bosses, I understand even less why the most unforgiving boss had to be the 40th floor one. They're a walk in the park compared to lvl 40 one. The one you ABSOLUTELY need to do if you even want some silver-tinged. If that's not something done to force casuals to do and redo the content ad nauseam, I don't know what it is.

[AetherHale]

So now that I have done floor 50, 60 and 70 bosses, I understand even less why the most unforgiving boss had to be the 40th floor one. They're a walk in the park compared to lvl 40 one. The one you ABSOLUTELY need to do if you even want some silver-tinged. If that's not something done to force casuals to do and redo the content ad nauseam, I don't know what it is.

If it casts a spell with the word twist in it don't stop moving, then dont touch the green swirlie...all the other mechanics do damage but you can survive a hit or two before dying. At this point in the game you're level 90 so its safe to assume you've gone over knock back mechanics around circles (90 Dungeon). The first time fighting against it, yeah you might die. especially since you mightve never done coils (Old raid).

I really hate to ad hom but it really just feels like people want to be hand held the entire game and at level 90 you shouldn't need a baby sitter to do some of these things. Maybe consider mahjong or something that doesn't require post game content to collect things.

[FatalFatalis]

Wanting to get all TT cards makes you an omni-content enjoyer. With all its pros and cons.
I never thought the rabbit hole would get this deep.

[Silver-Strider]

If it casts a spell with the word twist in it don't stop moving, then dont touch the green swirlie...all the other mechanics do damage but you can survive a hit or two before dying. At this point in the game you're level 90 so its safe to assume you've gone over knock back mechanics around circles (90 Dungeon). The first time fighting against it, yeah you might die. especially since you mightve never done coils (Old raid).

I really hate to ad hom but it really just feels like people want to be hand held the entire game and at level 90 you shouldn't need a baby sitter to do some of these things. Maybe consider mahjong or something that doesn't require post game content to collect things.

I'd rather they put a Card behind Ultimates than Deep Dungeons. I can at least tolerate Ultimates.