Tomestones.. Again.. for a relic..

[CStrife912]

lmao "all their ressources into the graphic overhaul"

you mean what modders have been doing for literally years ?

What was shown in the character portraits is beyond what modders can do with the base game even on a shader level...anyone can tell you that. Yeah modders can make textures look nice...but they don't have a PBR tied to them or soft shadows that's without even seeing the material work for the environment yet or even the lighting adjustments...modders can do some things but to say they have done that always is laughable at best. The only thing they're ahead on is putting hats on races that can't wear them.

[Stormpeaks]

What was shown in the character portraits is beyond what modders can do with the base game even on a shader level...anyone can tell you that. Yeah modders can make textures look nice...but they don't have a PBR tied to them or soft shadows that's without even seeing the material work for the environment yet or even the lighting adjustments...modders can do some things but to say they have done that always is laughable at best. The only thing they're ahead on is putting hats on races that can't wear them.

Yeah okay lmao, you are very clueless, but you keep coping friend

[RobynDaBank]

Yeah okay lmao, you are very clueless, but you keep coping friend

And you can keep insulting people and throw tantrums about the game on the forums all the while happily refreshing your subscription every month.

[CStrife912]

And you can keep insulting people and throw tantrums about the game on the forums all the while happily refreshing your subscription every month.

Honestly they could watch people who work in character design and environmental art with degrees and experience in the field tell you its beyond what modders can do and still be in their denial phase so I am used to it XD

[Stormpeaks]

And you can keep insulting people and throw tantrums about the game on the forums all the while happily refreshing your subscription every month.

Thankfully for me, housing saves this game, not this mediocre piece of content

Honestly they could watch people who work in character design and environmental art with degrees and experience in the field tell you its beyond what modders can do and still be in their denial phase so I am used to it XD

You keep coping friendo, keep worshipping SE, maybe you'll get a pat on the head for it eventually

[ForteNightshade]

So, we're literally just repeating the same step? Really? We've gotten to this level of making things as simple as possible that we're just doing the exact same thing we did in the first step? I'd rather have CT spam.

This actually makes me a little irritated and I question what the devs have been doing. It's fair to blame it on 16 taking up dev time but then personally they should be trying to hire more people to pick up the slack because it's not really fair to those of us who want a deeper experience with the game. Endwalker so far has been a disappointment and it upsets me to say that because I genuinely love this game. Lately though, it just feels like nothing really has much purpose to it and I don't get that same sense of achievement that I used to when completing content. It all just feels very surface and barebones and sad compared to previous expansions.

I was honestly excited to log in early and start doing the new content but now that it can be completed in literally 30m-1h (doing the deep dungeon in the afternoon with my quartet), I don't see a point.

This is precisely how I feel. While I had low expectations for this patch considering the shallow state of Endwalker, I'm still surprised just how... listless and uninspired the relic is. Ironically, they have really hammered in how utterly pointless it is to delay the relic step this long. Anyone who once tried to argue they needed time to develop new content... well, have yourself a good laugh. Our "new content" is farming the same hunt trains and dungeons that have existed for months.

What was shown in the character portraits is beyond what modders can do with the base game even on a shader level...anyone can tell you that. Yeah modders can make textures look nice...but they don't have a PBR tied to them or soft shadows that's without even seeing the material work for the environment yet or even the lighting adjustments...modders can do some things but to say they have done that always is laughable at best. The only thing they're ahead on is putting hats on races that can't wear them.

While Stormpeaks is being too aggressive on the opposite side, you're severely underestimating what modders have accomplished. The two most popular body mods literally remake your entire character. They aren't simply a texture update but a whole new body built off the base one. For specifics, just look up feet. Our default character doesn't have actual toes but drawn on black lines on stubs. Both body mods constructed a brand new foot that seamlessly meshes into the game. Clothing mods are on a whole different scale too. Of course, it should be noted it's far easier for modders to make improvements like this than the developers themselves as they don't have to factor in coding and making it all function server side. At the same time, it isn't a good look when they're still releasing hats Viera and Hrothgar can't wear but modders figured it out years ago.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

This is precisely how I feel. While I had low expectations for this patch considering the shallow state of Endwalker, I'm still surprised just how... listless and uninspired the relic is. Ironically, they have really hammered in how utterly pointless it is to delay the relic step this long. Anyone who once tried to argue they needed time to develop new content... well, have yourself a good laugh. Our "new content" is farming the same hunt trains and dungeons that have existed for months.



While Stormpeaks is being too aggressive on the opposite side, you're severely underestimating what modders have accomplished. The two most popular body mods literally remake your entire character. They aren't simply a texture update but a whole new body built off the base one. For specifics, just look up feet. Our default character doesn't have actual toes but drawn on black lines on stubs. Both body mods constructed a brand new foot that seamlessly meshes into the game. Clothing mods are on a whole different scale too. Of course, it should be noted it's far easier for modders to make improvements like this than the developers themselves as they don't have to factor in coding and making it all function server side. At the same time, it isn't a good look when they're still releasing hats Viera and Hrothgar can't wear but modders figured it out years ago.

Clothing mods me hair mods tend to look horrendous though. You think SE is lazy but so many of these are just... Flat

[Stormpeaks]

Clothing mods me hair mods tend to look horrendous though. You think SE is lazy but so many of these are just... Flat

Or maybe you just look at the wrong ones, the game with mods is literally an entirely different game, and actually makes it look good.

[Seraphor]

Or maybe you just look at the wrong ones, the game with mods is literally an entirely different game, and actually makes it look good.

The game with mods IS an entirely different game, one devoid of Final Fantasy charm, and that can only be seen by you.

Why would I want to play a game as a Second Life bimbo with an exaggerated body shape and Disney fan-fiction outfits, while everyone else see's me as a generic unglammed character?
(yes I know you can mod whatever, but let's face it, most people have terrible taste)

The whole point of playing an MMO is playing with other people. There's no point if I'm the only one who sees it. You're literally living in your own world, as if you've stumbled out of your basement flat with unkempt hair after going three weeks without showering, but you've convinced yourself you're a glamour model because that's what you see.

You're doing it for the gpose shots that only you can see, so you can post them to social media. So yes, it IS literally playing a different game, because it's not playing FF14.

[LianaThorne]

The game with mods IS an entirely different game, one devoid of Final Fantasy charm, and that can only be seen by you.

Why would I want to play a game as a Second Life bimbo with an exaggerated body shape and Disney fan-fiction outfits, while everyone else see's me as a generic unglammed character?
(yes I know you can mod whatever, but let's face it, most people have terrible taste)

The whole point of playing an MMO is playing with other people. There's no point if I'm the only one who sees it. You're literally living in your own world, as if you've stumbled out of your basement flat with unkempt hair after going three weeks without showering, but you've convinced yourself you're a glamour model because that's what you see.

You're doing it for the gpose shots that only you can see, so you can post them to social media. So yes, it IS literally playing a different game, because it's not playing FF14.

You're aware there is a thing now that lets other people see your mods right? Got like 15-20k people active on it most of the time and rising. I have friends that don't even use mods/plugins for their character in general but have that installed for the sake of seeing their other friends. The argument of it just being for yourself is slowly becoming innacurate.