SE, no effort anywhere lately.

[Liam_Harper]

But are you still having fun?

Yes. In WoW right now.

WoW is horribly buggy, unbalanced, messy lore and endgame has issues, but at least other games know what fun is. Pet battles, Toys, smooth jobs with utility and each with their own iconic abilities, proper achievements and collection tabs, ridiculous amounts of soloable old content with rewards and so on.

FF14 is so sterile, watered down and it feels like all the activities have to be Developer Approved and are restricted by the need to be morally correct. Can't make it rewarding, people will feel forced to do it. Got to make the dailies really short. Got to be accessible! Can't stress the healers and tanks, bland jobs and faceroll dungeons! Can't trust players with addons! Can't have crafting take effort, wanting gil is evil, hand it all over on a plate! Even the story is dull and just there to move the plot forward with a polite overstated "joke scene" thrown in here and there, instead of banter, conflict and real character interaction and development.
I never thought I'd play WoW again, but it has been so damn refreshing to load up a game and find yes, I get gold from everything, I can have my addons, there's gear all over the place, a million pet battles and toys, my achievements are displayed in guild chat and I receive and give out a "grats!" for good ones, side quests are actually worthwhile, everything gives exp, I can buy cash shop items with gold, there's tons of QoL, transmog tabs, so much bag space, crafting from my bank, season events I can spend proper time on ...and so on, without Dad (Yoshida) leaning over my shoulder and saying "oh no, I don't think that's good for you, I'm confiscating that. That'll be 12.99 a month please".

I'm playing other games like they told me to. Sub expires just before 6.4. I am not coming back for this patch or any after it.

[Denhith]

Sounds like you enjoy WoW. Which, is perfectly fine and all that. Bit strange that you if you are having so much fun in another game you feel the need to come to the forum of the game you no longer play just to bitch about it.

I mean, if you've moved on...then MOVE ON. Trust, it's the healthy thing to do.

Have fun!

[R041]

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Forum drama different than playing the game. Usually more fun and engaging. It's even multiplayer for once. lol

[Ath192]

Sounds like you enjoy WoW. Which, is perfectly fine and all that. Bit strange that you if you are having so much fun in another game you feel the need to come to the forum of the game you no longer play just to bitch about it.

I mean, if you've moved on...then MOVE ON. Trust, it's the healthy thing to do.

Have fun!

Yes let’s shoo away people that cite reasons for leaving as feedback so the game improves because the game is perfect as is. That way everyone will quit faster and they can shut the game down or stop updating it all together quicker. /clap

[Denhith]

Yes let’s shoo away people that cite reasons for leaving as feedback so the game improves because the game is perfect as is. That way everyone will quit faster and they can shut the game down or stop updating it all together quicker. /clap

You won't find anywhere that I said the game is perfect. Far from it.

But there is a huge difference between "feedback" and coming to a forum for a game you supposedly no longer play and have no interest in playing ever again (their words, not mine) and just bitching. It's simply not healthy, full stop.

[SaltyDaddy]

Criterion's problem isn't only the rewards, so much as it failed to provide a challenge of the same level of deep dungeons, exploratory content or extremes, which are what bridge between casual and savage tier. Instead they gave us more casual (Variant) and two savage (Criterion and Criterion Savage). The rewards sucking is the icing, because for how difficult Criterion is, those rewards are disproportional.

True. Proper rewards would just slower dying process by little. But having content that is balanced around savage gear and rewarding only materia is just spit on players, that made they not wanting to even try engaging with said content.

But I liked it as challenging content. Was very fun for me. Could be better? Sure. But good start.

You won't find anywhere that I said the game is perfect. Far from it.

But there is a huge difference between "feedback" and coming to a forum for a game you supposedly no longer play and have no interest in playing ever again (their words, not mine) and just bitching. It's simply not healthy, full stop.

They literally said what type of content they find fun in other games. HOW IS THAT NOT A FEEDBACK holy shit. They dont want to play in current state, but it can be seen THAT THEY STILL CARE. Dont be dumb.

[Padudu]

You won't find anywhere that I said the game is perfect. Far from it.

But there is a huge difference between "feedback" and coming to a forum for a game you supposedly no longer play and have no interest in playing ever again (their words, not mine) and just bitching. It's simply not healthy, full stop.

Not healthy? What are you, an armchair therapist? They literally made ONE post my dude lmao. You'd have more of a case if they were ranting up and down about it, but making a singular post with coherent couple of paragraphs where you can follow the logic behind it isn't an indicator of mental unwellness really. Come on now, be reasonable.

[Denhith]

Come on now, be reasonable.

Reason is acknowledging that a game isn't doing it for you anymore and simply moving on. That goes for anyone (including myself).

[Padudu]

Reason is acknowledging that a game isn't doing it for you anymore and simply moving on. That goes for anyone (including myself).

Reason is also acknowledging that people who have put thousands of hours into this game, over the course of years, will have obviously strong opinions about what they feel is their (once) favorite game going on a downhill slope with no signs of stopping. Sometimes simple moving on is just making a post or two while the sub runs its course. There's still a sense of a community you know, even for the forums lol. People still have friends, communities in the game as well. Liam can post about it AND acknowledge that the game is no longer fun for him. It's a shocker, I know.

[Ath192]

You won't find anywhere that I said the game is perfect. Far from it.

But there is a huge difference between "feedback" and coming to a forum for a game you supposedly no longer play and have no interest in playing ever again (their words, not mine) and just bitching. It's simply not healthy, full stop.

What I learned from him and the example he cited is that WoW has some content that lasts a lot longer than XIV does for players that want to stick around.

What I learned from your comment is that you became offended when someone else brought ideas FFXIV could look at and you cussed him out and told him to go away.

Then, you disguised it as health concerns and pretended you were a nice person….

It crazy how people try to rationalize their aggressive/toxic behavior.