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  1. #101
    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rueby View Post
    I was trying to farm the nier raids for glam for...a WEEK of it popping 1-2 times AFTER reset. 40+ mins of waiting > 40+ mins of the raid itself add to it the garbage RNG of 'oh y'know we won't drop what you need or someone will roll higher on it ggwp'

    Please if you can't fix the system at least compensate the people somehow...I don't have fun when I feel like I wasted HOURS of my time and still not get anything I want because people are unequiping their gear to get circus tower. Such a horrible system, they tied that garbage raid to the MSQ PLUS relic weapons.
    Tbf, this is an issue that's not exclusive to Alliance Raids.
    There could be a 'queue time compensation' reward. Something that gives you incremental reward increases depending on how long you're forced to wait for certain content. +10% EXP for each 5 minutes of queue time. Tomes might be tricky though.
    Even if it was just Gil, like an additional 1000g for every 5 minutes of waiting, maybe a cluster per 5 minutes too if you're level 90, it would feel like that time wasn't for nothing.
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  2. #102
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    Mirn Armaya
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Overall, the problem isn't just difficulty, but rather how uneven the clear times are. Crystal Tower may be dull, but it's faster. NieR raids are on the easier side, but the fights are made to drag on. And Ivalice's fights jump between being HP sponges or having strict mechanics that require coordination. The rewards are more or less the same either way.

    Essentially, they need to bring the raids to a similar clear time. If it means simplifying the harder raids and reducing on boss HP then so be it, since you kind of need to push for an average. That way, it'd reduce on the amount of people only seeking to do CT, and it could promote other raids. And I mention simplifying mechanics because the suggestion of making CT and VA any harder seems to garner a lot more ire... I personally would prefer interesting fight design over the bore-snore-tank-and-spank I see in every standard dungeon, but alas. In the end, it's up to Square Enix to determine exactly what sort of content these Alliance Raids are meant to be and ensure they are appropriately tuned for them.
    They'd just need to bump up boss health on CT/first Void Ark to be on par what the itemlevel the play usually has nowadays - The players get free armor/weapons up until at the end of ARR (from i90 to i110), so no need to have the bar so low (LotA is iLevel 50 minimum).

    And while doing so, they could do well to remake the coils. Just update the rewards to give something new and shiny.
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    Last edited by Arrius; 02-27-2023 at 02:44 AM.

  3. #103
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    Nihility's Avatar
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    Tenebria Miku
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    Behemoth
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    They would either have to scale all the alliance raids down to like... Level 60
    Or find a way to force scale up everyone's gear to the raid level which is equally weird.
    Abusable as it is the ilvl check is there for a reason.

    I get level 40-45 dungeons with people in level 6-10 white gear that ends up taking for-freaking-ever often enough that I definitely don't want that in alliance raid roulette too.
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  4. #104
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    Feline Good
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    Paladin Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Nihility View Post
    They would either have to scale all the alliance raids down to like... Level 60
    Or find a way to force scale up everyone's gear to the raid level which is equally weird.
    Abusable as it is the ilvl check is there for a reason.

    I get level 40-45 dungeons with people in level 6-10 white gear that ends up taking for-freaking-ever often enough that I definitely don't want that in alliance raid roulette too.
    This is a completely different issue.

    All the ARR dungeons up to the level 50 dungeons have no ilevel requirements. At all. You can queue into Dzemael Darkhold or Aurum Vale with level 1 gear if you want.

    And for some reason no one ever thought to update that.
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  5. #105
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    This is a completely different issue.

    All the ARR dungeons up to the level 50 dungeons have no ilevel requirements. At all. You can queue into Dzemael Darkhold or Aurum Vale with level 1 gear if you want.

    And for some reason no one ever thought to update that.
    That's odd. I could have sworn back in the day each dungeon had a minimum ilvl requirement. Maybe they got rid of that with free trails. /shrug

    In any case, CT is breaking Alliance Roulette and needs to be addressed. /endpost
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  6. #106
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Frankly speaking, I think CT and the like should be retuned as appropriate, and adjust exp values if necessary.
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  7. #107
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Frankly speaking, I think CT and the like should be retuned as appropriate, and adjust exp values if necessary.
    TBH I'd just settle for them to have their ilvl sync brought down to what the max ilvl was at the time the raid was released and do so for all past alliance raids.
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  8. #108
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    Wise Fuchsia
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    Nier raid's boss healthpools are massively inflated, unless you have competent team they just keep repeating mechanics for ages. This was even worse when they came out, which is a shame because the fights are pretty nice aside from taking forever, whereas all the stuff before them have the opposite problem of dying too fast and getting their mechanics skipped or ignored.
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  9. #109
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    Jira Dal'riata
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ThaCa View Post
    Nier raid's boss healthpools are massively inflated, unless you have competent team they just keep repeating mechanics for ages. This was even worse when they came out, which is a shame because the fights are pretty nice aside from taking forever, whereas all the stuff before them have the opposite problem of dying too fast and getting their mechanics skipped or ignored.
    Beyond off topic but would’ve been nice to see the 2nd boss of Euphoria enrage more than once in my life. I only saw it once on patch week and never again and never will due to power creep
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  10. #110
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    Aries Helle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    Beyond off topic but would’ve been nice to see the 2nd boss of Euphoria enrage more than once in my life. I only saw it once on patch week and never again and never will due to power creep
    Enlighten us, what do they do? This is gated content behind the fight being too casual. I am afraid I will never be able to witness it.

    nvm I found it on youtube, too bad I'll never get to experience it first hand. It looks really cool

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8Ny...hannel=Hinkles
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    Last edited by Ath192; 03-01-2023 at 03:16 AM.

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