Quote Originally Posted by MakoMight View Post
Ridiculous. You can open up party finder every day and see c4x with and without duty complete. There are duty complete parties that do put c4x in the description and there are ones that don't. There are totem parties where the bonus tomestome message shows up when you instance in, and duty complete farm parties where a bunch of people get an achievement for clearing at the end. Nobody said this would get rid of trap parties, the problem is you can list parties with conditions that you or your friend do not fill.

The ones who would be hurt by this are people who think well I deem myself more clear or prog worthy than everyone else so I can join parties past my actual prog or completion status, and I am willing to put up dishonest listings to get party members who are beyond my completion status. These people are not at all uncommon! In fact a few have showed up in this thread

The concept of a c4x is that the people coming into help you have cleared. For people putting up a "c41" in a non-duty complete party, those usually end up being Clear for 4s, 5s + because anyone can join since it is essentially a clear party. C41s and C4alts will basically vanish because they are now just Enrage/Clear parties. Like you said before, in PF people constantly jump into parties way passed their prog or comfortability point.

The concept of PF listing is to define what the PF lister is looking for. All you will get from this change is less PFs, slower-filling PFs, and still plenty of trap parties. If you join a party that is a farm and that person clearly hasn't cleared or knows what they are doing, blacklist them and move on.