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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    yes, I would be.
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    Miyako Aikawa
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    Goblin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Eorzean_username View Post
    The second SE starts scanning my PC with weird invasive rootkit stuff is the second I get over any remaining FFXIV habit that I have left.
    What's really weird is that this mindset is a very common one - and yet plenty of people would be fine with requiring every group member during world prog to stream their run for legitimacy.

    As in, apparently surveilling someone's room RL (not to mention excluding nearly everyone whose RL doesn't allow for a streaming-presentable gaming environment ...) is a lesser evil over surveilling their PC ...

    Personally, the main issues I've seen with anti-cheats are:

    a, most of them (especially the ones Asian developers usually rely on) do not work properly unless you're running an actual Windows operating system (especially important now with how much of a hit the Steam Deck is).

    b, kernel level trust increases the attack surface for actually-malicious software.

    c, performance hits. Would really rather not see 7.0 (especially with the graphics revamp on top of it) start requiring Forspoken level system specs (what? you don't have a 4090? have fun with the framerate in hunts and exploratory missions! LOL).
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    Kahori Harukawa
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    Coeurl
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    Machinist Lv 100
    SE is not HoYoVerse. This is different.
    (2)

    "But please. Call me Bae."
    The White Witch of Okami Rojo.

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    Jaesuna Elariya
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Yes. Don't add any scanning programs to my computer for FFXIV.
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    Veleda Haze
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    Jenova
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    The fact that this game has no Anti Cheat to begin with is appalling.

    If you look at the weekly bans they are pretty much only RMT related.

    How can we take a game seriously if they don't even attempt to prevent cheating??
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    Atelier-Bagur's Avatar
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Happy View Post
    The fact that this game has no Anti Cheat to begin with is appalling.

    If you look at the weekly bans they are pretty much only RMT related.

    How can we take a game seriously if they don't even attempt to prevent cheating??
    Anti-Cheat isnt the solution. Would you rather SE risk your own PC's information just for the sake of their game. The team knows this and doesnt want to implement such measures because it'll ruin everyone's game for the worse. Do your research
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    Lauren Zackson
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Anti-Cheat isnt the solution. Would you rather SE risk your own PC's information just for the sake of their game. The team knows this and doesnt want to implement such measures because it'll ruin everyone's game for the worse. Do your research
    There is a big misunderstanding around that for some reason the only form of measures that can ever exist measures are EAC-level spyware, while that is 100% not at all the case. Fact is, there are basic and non-intrusive safety measures that ff14, being built on spaghetti and bits a pieces of 1.0, plainly lacks, implementing which would already be a roadblock. Such as just verifying game's own files, enforcing use of SE's native launcher or properly verifying data being sent from clients/encoding data sent to clients. But it would also be a very grand undertaking hence why I find it unlikely to happen.
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    Veleda Haze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Anti-Cheat isnt the solution. Would you rather SE risk your own PC's information just for the sake of their game. The team knows this and doesnt want to implement such measures because it'll ruin everyone's game for the worse. Do your research
    I play all types of games and 99 percent of online multiplayer games with a competitive aspect use anti cheat software. The toxicity on this forum knows no bounds. If you have a wooden pc that is on you, all my games run just fine.

    Allowing cheaters to have free reign with a near zero chance of getting caught is not healthy for any game do some research pls before posting about things you have no clue about.

    With that attitude towards anti cheat it's apparent you are cheating in this game currently.
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Happy View Post
    With that attitude towards anti cheat it's apparent you are cheating in this game currently.
    With that attitude towards anti cheat it's apparent you are cheating in this game currentl- wait let me read this line one more time. "With that attitude towards anti cheat it's apparent YOU ARE CHEATING INTHISGAMECURRENTLY!?



    Oh boy! this is wholefully rich! I didnt expect to actually be impressed by the level of durr I've witnessed today
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    Zebra Rune
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    Gilgamesh
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    With that attitude towards anti cheat it's apparent you are cheating in this game currentl- wait let me read this line one more time. "With that attitude towards anti cheat it's apparent YOU ARE CHEATING INTHISGAMECURRENTLY!?



    Oh boy! this is wholefully rich! I didnt expect to actually be impressed by the level of durr I've witnessed today
    Just add another one to the list of derps who say "you said something to disagree with me therefore you're defending mods and must be a cheater yourself". They're really coming out of the woodwork lately.
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