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    Spamming Recup ain't fun.

    Just boost the HP we all get and remove it.
    Dunno about everyone else but I am trying to kill people not spam the turd recup all day.
    I do think the "Long cast" potion should stay but when I'm trying to combo my crap
    I don't wanna stop and spam it 4 times and just break out of it.
    Not gonna lie here I just die and take the L there a bit of the time because
    I'm in the heat of the game and I don't feel like spamming that or shielding on CD.

    Edit: I meant recuperate not potion but same diff lol.
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    Last edited by Jybril; 01-26-2023 at 11:54 AM. Reason: Wrong skill.

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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    How about no? The mode is supposed to be role agnostic, thus everyone has a heal skill since, ya know, healers are not really healers, just flavors of it (which is an issue on its own with certain healers having a bit too much of that flavor making recup too strong.)
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    So you find spamming recup fun?
    Healers not being legitimate healers is fine.
    Never mentioned that at all. Just think it's better
    to you know, fight and not drag it forever spamming it 4 times.
    You do know you have another heal skill, right? As mentioned.
    Just my 2c.
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    Last edited by Jybril; 01-26-2023 at 12:42 PM. Reason: Typo, on phone.

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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    I don't spam it that often because I make a habit of not putting myself in a scenario would I would need to. Don't unga bunga into a crowd of 3 or 4 enemies without your team and learn when to retreat to use a potion and it becomes a non-issue.
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    Dolly Derringer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    I don't spam it that often because I make a habit of not putting myself in a scenario would I would need to. Don't unga bunga into a crowd of 3 or 4 enemies without your team and learn when to retreat to use a potion and it becomes a non-issue.
    It's the 12 or 24 enemies hitting me I dislike. Lot of aoes to try and heal through while 4 different dark knights do their pull into the middle of them.
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    Auto potions should be a thing and it shouldn’t have a cast timer. Also auto potions should let you set at what % your health gets before activating.

    Along with attribute potions. They should insta cast without a cast bar. If this was the case I would love to use potions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    I don't spam it that often because I make a habit of not putting myself in a scenario would I would need to. Don't unga bunga into a crowd of 3 or 4 enemies without your team and learn when to retreat to use a potion and it becomes a non-issue.
    ?
    I mean, as a melee you kinda have to?
    I rarely duel or chase lol.

    You must not play CC at all, or ever been a melee lmao.
    Kinda hard not to when it's a lot of teamfights.
    But even then I would rather higher HP so it's not needed.
    Just run to use long pot and be done with it. It just drags fights.
    All I'm saying lol.
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    Last edited by Jybril; 01-26-2023 at 08:17 PM. Reason: Mobile edits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    I don't spam it that often because I make a habit of not putting myself in a scenario would I would need to. Don't unga bunga into a crowd of 3 or 4 enemies without your team and learn when to retreat to use a potion and it becomes a non-issue.
    When you get focused the second you're in targeting range, spamming heals just to get away is kind of required, and especially annoying if you're melee. Today in CC my entire team was fighting the entire enemy team, I surprised them from the back and they all turned and started attacking me. That's not poor play. Sometimes I get away sometimes I don't.

    If you find yourself never needing to heal, I have to wonder if you just AFK the whole time.
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    I agree it's more obnoxious than anything.
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Alpha
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    I'm sorry but I am agreeing with Ransu here. Spamming it isn't supposed to be fun. It is essentially a failure state.

    If you are ever put in a situation where you have to spam Recuperate to survive (and perhaps still die), these happened:

    - you overextended without having any defensive tools for engagement OR playing near walls for cover
    - along with the first one, you had nobody initiate with / for you (having a player being an "initiator" massively helps)
    - the enemy group-engaged on you, which you alone aren't meant to survive, people need to peel* for you

    Peeling isn't just "use ability XY on target ABC", it is also using damage to pressure out enemies that pressure your own team, either by killing them outright for forcing them to retreat. It is why I check my backline often and call inside our backline first.

    There is skill issue in the broad sense, depending on the context.

    Recuperate is finite and recharging one takes 15s in serverticks. If you had them as your main HP pool or made auto-recuperate to be a thing, stuns / silences wouldn't matter to deny healing like this.

    At most I'd reach out an olive branch and advocate for a more snappy application of Recuperate upon button press.
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