Get rid of SAM Limit break gimmick already (FL)

[Xylira]

I'd settle with them giving more classes a small self absorb shield ability so that skilled players can safely bait samurai into wasting their LB for nothing. It's hilarious watching them standing in place after using zantetsuken, confused as to why you're not dead, while you spam recuperate back up to full health.

As it is, it's easier just to ignore a samurai until chiten drops, they blow their LB, or you have enough players to chain CC them into the ground before they can do anything. It's such a ridiculous way for a class to be designed for pvp, especially with how the sluggish server tick rate is in FF, and how easy it is to accidently clip them with AOE. Which is even sillier in frontlines because you can't actually see their limit gauge, so you have to assume a samurai has their LB ready in most cases.

Thankfully with 6.3 they at least fixed some of the issues where non-damaging abilities would incorrectly trigger chiten.

[Cheremia]

Yes

And it's not the enemies fault for using their Aoes on anybody BUT the Sam, but clipping the Sam with said AoE.

I can see Chiten if the Sam is isolated and all, even in some scuffles with multiple people.

But god forbid there being the whole alliance of the sam attached to said sam (or even both, sometimes all 3 teams are fighting) and you, in your "stupidity" use your kit, clip the Sam and die!
Shouldn't have used that Bio+deployment, me, how silly of me.

Like, i didnt get clipped by a Sam in a WHILE but that doesn't mean it never happens still.
I've seen other people clip them and die tho.

And I dunno how the concept is so hard to understand for some?

It's still not "woah we hit the sam in obvious chiten and died! GEE!!"
It is: "I used my AoEs, I have no other option than to use my AoE since it's most of my kit and died to a sam that was somewhere clipped with one of my AoEs"

It's literally impossible for me to know if a Chiten-Sam is 15 yalms around any of the people i targed with biolysis+deployment at ANY given moment in ANY circumstance or can anticipate them running into it somehow.
It's just not possible man, also serverticks

[Avenheit]

if you remove the one hit kill ability, may as well remove SAM form pvp.

[Jettinson]

if you remove the one hit kill ability, may as well remove SAM form pvp.

Solution: Give SAM a gun

[Stasya]

if you remove the one hit kill ability, may as well remove SAM form pvp.

All 1 hit kill abilities should be removed, people cry about sam while ninja lb is way worse

[Elfidan]

if you remove the one hit kill ability, may as well remove SAM form pvp.

This just illustrates the fact that the skill ceiling is too high for most. They should rework the pvp side of SAM. Any job where players are literally just waiting for their LB is a broken mess.

[Kuroka]

if you remove the one hit kill ability, may as well remove SAM form pvp.

After my RDM nerfs i dont see why sam should keep that lol

[Naizakane]

Running up to people and pressing chiten in their face still works in 2023. Either don't hit the samurai or play a job with a shield.

[AnnRam]

Not really.

SAM insta deletes you at full HP if you poke him by accident, Nin actually requires to hit you a lot and if you are a Melee class at least in Frontline its imposible to stay at half hp with the DR boost.

SAM LB its impossible to escape, Displacement, Elusive Jump, name any escape tool you can't get away from it because 25 yards cast range.

[AnnRam]

Yeah no.

>Be MCH
>Put the turret
>Random Sam walks in with Chiten up
>Can't do anything because I can't turn it off
>Sam one shot me across the map
>"lol its your fault don't use any of your aoe skills in pvp get gud "