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  1. #51
    Player AwesomeJr44's Avatar
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    Marel Nobelle
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    But if your going to prepull in a raid/trial, i can, and will, let you die.
    If you're going to refuse to play in a raid/trial, I can, and will report you for doing so as it is against TOS.
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  2. #52
    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Hazy Dreams
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Any timer longer than 5 seconds is griefing. After that, I’ll pull if you don’t
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  3. #53
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    ThroatDeep's Avatar
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    Kaalia Vast
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    Famfrit
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Depends on content. Current ex trial and up. Yes. If you are pull timering any low end content without specific context you are a dweeb.
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  4. #54
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    Some people like to optimize rotations, waiting 15 seconds for the tank to pull isn't going to kill you. Pulling before the tank certainly will.
    I need at least a 17 second timer. If I can't do my opener, neither will you. :P

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  5. #55
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    DixieBellOCE's Avatar
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    Dixie Bell
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    Ravana
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    I'd be happy to just get a timer. Its normal content, so its not the end of the world, but I never realized how much the lack of a pull timer really messes people up on their openers till I started playing BLM lmao.
    Not only that. It misaligns raid buffs throughout an entire fight, which can lead to fights taking longer than required.

    Pull timers are just a courtesy to those that actually care about getting better at the game, The people that refuse to abide by them 90% of the time only care about themselves and would rather pre-pull or troll pull at the cost of another player's gameplay.

    Its a stark difference between JP and NA, Pulling without a pull timer in trials/raids rarely happens on JP because they respect other players. Where as NA is just 'LOL PULL WHO CARES'
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  6. #56
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    LianaThorne's Avatar
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Diabolos
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    If you're going to refuse to play in a raid/trial, I can, and will report you for doing so as it is against TOS.
    Always makes me giggle when people bring up griefing others for no reason other than lack of control and are proud of it.
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  7. #57
    Player Nyxs's Avatar
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    Koyuki Himekawa
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    Malboro
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    Conjurer Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    It doesn't matter what boss fight you are doing.

    If somebody starts a pull timer, Respect it.

    Some people like to optimize rotations, waiting 15 seconds for the tank to pull isn't going to kill you. Pulling before the tank certainly will.

    Dungeons? Go ahead, bring the trash to me, ill tank it.

    But if your going to prepull in a raid/trial, i can, and will, let you die.
    I hope we end up in stuff together so I can report you. Clearly need a break. Serious talk. You clearly have control issues where you feel your authority and what you want take priority as you are clearly narcissistic. There is ways to get help out there so please do seek it out, might be a good new year resolution for you.
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  8. #58
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    Greyhawk's Avatar
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    Coven Whitewolf
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    There is this concept called a "starting signal", which is different than a ready check. I wonder if you ever heard of it, it's pretty common in real life too.
    Yeah, I am not running the 440 anymore. I'm not waiting at a red light. I'm playing a video game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    You sound like you've never done EX and above or are very problematic in those situations.
    I've done a few, but honestly not much, and I never saw it there either. I've seen it more in 8-man raids where it's frankly funny to see a ready check, then a countdown. Cmon, it's not that difficult. But, I'm glad you could base an entire gameplay system around > 1% of the game.
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  9. #59
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    Impishwerth's Avatar
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    Rhela Mindorah
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    Malboro
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Real q is why would I respect a pull timer that no one asked for? If someone wants to practice a level 70 or 80 rotation there are better places (and with more consistant results!) to be doing that, like the sync-dummies.
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  10. #60
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    Hanayumi's Avatar
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Tend to only wait if someone is new, otherwise its wall to wall and pull boss as soon as I get there.
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