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  1. #2171
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    Renalt's Avatar
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    Goodness, I'm terrible at the line AoE cycles in Ktisis on the last boss...
    The good thing about that mechanic if you mess it up is that he starts off with it and if you get nailed with it it is only one stack and he won't use it again until that stack is long gone...

    unless you get hit with EVERY mechanic.

    I say run the trusts and focus on what they do and why. You'll pick up on it easily enough.
    (3)
    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

  2. #2172
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    Frizze's Avatar
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Lamia
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    not saying I justify the action but a friend of mine ia farming out matches for the battle pass. Man's told me from a numbers perspective it is quicker to throw and have the match end sooner then trying to win and up losing.
    As someone who calculated how many runs i would need based on only losses, i do also understand that dozens of 2 min matches takes less time then slightly less dozens of 2-5 min matches. Its the mindset of figuring that out and then putting it into practice that mystifies me. There is no content i am willing to que for that i am willing to afk through. And i doubt there is any reward they could add to the game that would get me to change my mind about this. If im chasing the reward, im engaging with the content whether i enjoy it or not.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    In short kinda the curse of making obtainable rewards aviable in PvP and making the more desirable things like mounts towards the end. You get players that are only doing it for the reward and not because they enjoy the content.
    And like i said, on one axis this does include me. It would take a major mental shift to get me interested in shooting for a top 100 placement in a future PvP season. I imagine its the same reason i find people leveling a class exclusively through alliance cheese and MSQ roulette distasteful - even moreso if they are also the type to afk some of this content because "lol its only LotA" or whatever arguement they may make. Though to be fair, i have long decided that i do not represent the norm in all my opinions - and indeed often throw extra challenges at myself for no real reason(so the opposite of just using the path of least resistance to level). Im currently leveling summoner with the "handicap" being no summons allowed. Im not sure if ill loosen the rule at 90 or not, i never intend to USE summoner so it probly doesnt matter. I have BLM for any caster content i need, and im also leveling RDM with a much looser handicap(RDM only allowed for khloe duties and mogtomes) so SMN can just be a pet project. And before anyone accuses me of being worse then ______, i will note that i dont bring SMN into group content. No random group consented to my mad quest, so ill not hoist it upon them. The class is into the mid-60s through a combination of class quests, duty-support/squadron dungeons, fates and leves(especially when paired with the challenge log), tribal quests, and some solo PotD runs(mostly using the scholar aspect). When it gets high enough, it might get some of my khloe weekly bonuses too but they seem wasted on a class that isnt at least into the 70s.

    All of which is a lot of words to say, yeah i hear what youre saying but i still cant get into that mental space.
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  3. #2173
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Alaha Vellonnu
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    Lamia
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Dear DRK tanks:

    Lately I've been running into this strange trend of DRKs only using TBN as their primary, if not only, cooldown they've got and ignore the rest of their kit for the whole dang dungeon.

    TBN is not your only defensive cooldown. You have Shadow Wall, Rampart, Reprisal, and Arm's Length. Please make use of them, especially when you show up into an 80-cap dungeon as a lvl 80 wearing 70 gear and only using TBN as your primary cooldown. Also please don't stand in aoes, this makes my job as a healer harder to keep you upright, especially when you nab yourself 7 vuln stacks.

    Not using a majority of your kit like this is not a challenge, it is simply rude and putting more work on the rest of your party to carry you. Using TBN is nice, but you need to support yourself for the shield dropoff with a defensive cooldown so you don't lose a huge chunk of your hp right away.

    Had one earlier on my alt SGE that basically did just that in Mt. Gulg, with a single use of Rampart the entire dungeon. No other defensive cooldown was used. He gave me several heart attacks because of this when he finally decided to go full pull before and after the second boss.

    Please don't be like the DRK I ran into and had the displeasure of having to carry them.

    Sincerely,

    One angy sage
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    This one is beyond your help. Only sleep can save her now.

  4. #2174
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    AnotherPerson's Avatar
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    Cain Andleft
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    Malboro
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cincierta View Post
    Dear DRK tanks:

    Lately I've been running into this strange trend of DRKs only using TBN as their primary, if not only, cooldown they've got and ignore the rest of their kit for the whole dang dungeon.

    TBN is not your only defensive cooldown. You have Shadow Wall, Rampart, Reprisal, and Arm's Length. Please make use of them, especially when you show up into an 80-cap dungeon as a lvl 80 wearing 70 gear and only using TBN as your primary cooldown. Also please don't stand in aoes, this makes my job as a healer harder to keep you upright, especially when you nab yourself 7 vuln stacks.

    Not using a majority of your kit like this is not a challenge, it is simply rude and putting more work on the rest of your party to carry you. Using TBN is nice, but you need to support yourself for the shield dropoff with a defensive cooldown so you don't lose a huge chunk of your hp right away.

    Had one earlier on my alt SGE that basically did just that in Mt. Gulg, with a single use of Rampart the entire dungeon. No other defensive cooldown was used. He gave me several heart attacks because of this when he finally decided to go full pull before and after the second boss.

    Please don't be like the DRK I ran into and had the displeasure of having to carry them.

    Sincerely,

    One angy sage
    They're playing DRK like they're WAR. I have seen too many of those tanks in DF before.
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  5. #2175
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    Renalt's Avatar
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cincierta View Post
    Dear DRK tanks:


    Sincerely,

    One angy sage
    Did we get the same exact tank? Pretty much same situation about a week ago. Gear about 10 levels too short and only used TBN. I think it was the dungeon just before that one too that we did. The one inside the mines.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

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  6. #2176
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    Azuri's Avatar
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    Azuri Aeru
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    Phoenix
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cincierta View Post
    Dear DRK tanks:

    Lately I've been running into this strange trend of DRKs only using TBN as their primary, if not only, cooldown they've got and ignore the rest of their kit for the whole dang dungeon.

    TBN is not your only defensive cooldown. You have Shadow Wall, Rampart, Reprisal, and Arm's Length. Please make use of them, especially when you show up into an 80-cap dungeon as a lvl 80 wearing 70 gear and only using TBN as your primary cooldown. Also please don't stand in aoes, this makes my job as a healer harder to keep you upright, especially when you nab yourself 7 vuln stacks.

    Not using a majority of your kit like this is not a challenge, it is simply rude and putting more work on the rest of your party to carry you. Using TBN is nice, but you need to support yourself for the shield dropoff with a defensive cooldown so you don't lose a huge chunk of your hp right away.

    Had one earlier on my alt SGE that basically did just that in Mt. Gulg, with a single use of Rampart the entire dungeon. No other defensive cooldown was used. He gave me several heart attacks because of this when he finally decided to go full pull before and after the second boss.

    Please don't be like the DRK I ran into and had the displeasure of having to carry them.

    Sincerely,

    One angy sage
    Oh, that's one of my favourites! Dear angry sage, please let me use my most powerful cooldown first before spamming your heals. Otherwise I will not use anything else until you do let (or maybe fail hard enough to let) my HP bar finally drop to the point where Living Dead is justifiable.

    Until that point, you will not see a single CD. One day you will learn. Or don't. Not like it matters much to me.
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  7. #2177
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    Zebra Rune
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    Oh, that's one of my favourites! Dear angry sage, please let me use my most powerful cooldown first before spamming your heals. Otherwise I will not use anything else until you do let (or maybe fail hard enough to let) my HP bar finally drop to the point where Living Dead is justifiable.

    Until that point, you will not see a single CD. One day you will learn. Or don't. Not like it matters much to me.
    ...the healer is having to spam heals because you're not using CDs properly. Plus a sage is going to be constantly healing you due to kardia, so... Also, you realize TBN takes priority over sage shields right? It's the second highest priority shield in the game, it's going to pop regardless of the sage's shields, so you're double wrong.

    Unless you're referring to LD as your most powerful CD, to which my response is... wat, why would you want to blow that immediately when it's completely unnecessary when you have a sage healer, and what do you do during the longass cooldown?
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    Last edited by Zebraoracle; 01-03-2023 at 12:54 PM.

  8. #2178
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    Raoabolic's Avatar
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Coeurl
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherPerson View Post
    They're playing DRK like they're WAR. I have seen too many of those tanks in DF before.
    Or they are playing like they it's ARR/HW and just got confused, lol.
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  9. #2179
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    Vel Kallor
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    Kujata
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    I keep tellin' em and I keep saying it: DONT STAND IN FRONT OF THE TANK.

    1. Prae is now a 4 man
    2. Tankbusters HURT
    3. DPS arent designed to eat said tankbuster
    4. Bard found that out the hard way

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  10. #2180
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    Zebra Rune
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    I keep tellin' em and I keep saying it

    1. Prae is now a 4 man
    2. Tankbusters HURT
    3. DPS arent designed to eat said tankbuster
    4. Bard found that out the hard way

    Were... were they sprouts at least? Or running it for the first time since the rework? Gosh I've somehow managed to be really lucky with my MSQ queues.
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