Please add damage meters, Yoshi P.

[Ransu]

And how would you know what everyone's DPS output is?

Did you beat the enrage? Congrats you did enough dps. That's all I care about.

Who was it that carried firemage? Surely you can point to people, right? Surely you're not making baseless accusations, right??

You know the website without anyone needing to directly mention it.

[Rithy255]

I don't think adding them will really make the game much more toxic, I feel like most people generally already be careful with what they say in game for many reasons, the type of people who rage about numbers would be the type to about other stuff.

I don't think people would risk their account over someone not performing well, Theirs already rules for being too critical of others gameplay I'm pretty sure.

also hot-take but enrages shouldn't be a thing if we aren't allowed to know numbers and where to improve on.

[Zebraoracle]

I don't think adding them will really make the game much more toxic, I feel like most people generally already be careful with what they say in game for many reasons, the type of people who rage about numbers would be the type to about other stuff.

I don't think people would risk their account over someone not performing well, Theirs already rules for being too critical of others gameplay I'm pretty sure.

also hot-take but enrages shouldn't be a thing if we aren't allowed to know numbers and where to improve on.

Stop spewing logic, it's horrible in the face of "feelings"! /s

[Saraide]

Did you beat the enrage? Congrats you did enough dps. That's all I care about.



You know the website without anyone needing to directly mention it.

I know where to look, I already have. So who has carried them? Surely you know specifics and wouldnt just parrot what other people have claimed, right?

[Rithy255]

Stop spewing logic, it's horrible in the face of "feelings"! /s

I can understand, people being worried about "toxicity" but like 99% of people already know to be respectful and not really comment on peoples gameplay without being asked for tips or something first, The ones who do tend to be "toxic" get punished for being toxic.

My issue is the game is very Damage dependent, to the point where "the meta" is based generally on what job does the most damage, so knowing your numbers and where to improve makes sense...oh well I guess.

[Vivian_Vex]

This is sure a lot of complaining for something that is obviously never going to happen, and never should happen because it's blatantly obvious this would increase toxicity. Just like it does in every single other game that has them.

It's almost as if this entire thread is a giant waste of time and space.

[FireMage]

Did you beat the enrage? Congrats you did enough dps. That's all I care about.

Gross mindset to have

[Conadrium]

I can understand, people being worried about "toxicity" but like 99% of people already know to be respectful and not really comment on peoples gameplay without being asked for tips or something first, The ones who do tend to be "toxic" get punished for being toxic.

My issue is the game is very Damage dependent, to the point where "the meta" is based generally on what job does the most damage, so knowing your numbers and where to improve makes sense...oh well I guess.

I’m honestly surprised no one reported the guy attacking firemage for getting damage downs. Since he obviously wasn’t in that group he used 3rd party sources to attack someone’s performance right here.

[Rithy255]

Did you beat the enrage? Congrats you did enough dps. That's all I care about.

What if you didn't beat the enrage? how would you know if you needed to Improve your numbers?
I'm all for not "shaming" people based off dps but their has to be a point where you need to know where some people could improve.

While it's toxic to rage at people who are struggling, It's also toxic to put no effort into doing better and expecting everyone to carry you when you can't meet the checks.

[VerdeLuck]

What if you didn't beat the enrage? how would you know if you needed to Improve your numbers?
I'm all for not "shaming" people based off dps but their has to be a point where you need to know where some people could improve.

While it's toxic to rage at people who are struggling, It's also toxic to put no effort into doing better and accepting everyone to carry you when you can't meet the checks.

If you don't clear the DPS check and it's in PF, you pull again. Fail 3 times and something isn't working, you disband and make a new group.
You can't tell the full contribution on damage from meters anyway, the rdps stats are calculated after the fact by fflogs and without those everyone but melee looks like they severely underperform due to their raid buffs not counting.