So will Island Sanctuary become more like WoW Garrisons?

[MahthildisMMORPG]

I feel like you're all being purposely dismissive, difficult and derailing/ignoring the main question just because I compared Garrisons to Island Sanctuary. The point of the post was that Garrisons aka WoW scuffed version of player housing have it's equivalent to the market board, bank, mount stable, and glamour dresser, etc. So I was ASKING if anybody hoped we got these for our island sanctuary, and other features of convenience like Garrisons, all of the resources, everything would be there and we'll never have to leave when not in dungeons, ques, etc.

So, FC bank, glamour dresser, market board, Chocobo stable, retainer bell, aesthetician, etc.

Yet, you're all up in arms over things that are irrelevant to my initial post and the point of it. Who cares if it's "NoT LiKe GaRrISoNs!", that literally has nothing to do with the post. The point was, does anybody hope these things get added to IS, nothing more.

(Frustrated because my post was apparently featured on Zepla's stream and people were being rude)

So far I am loving IS because it reminds me of Garrisons, who cares if it doesn't remind you of Garrisons, it does to me. And I wouldn't want IS to become a throwaway feature just so wealthier players can lavish in their player housing. I want a reason to keep on coming back.

[Deveryn]

I feel like you're all being purposely dismissive, difficult and derailing/ignoring the main question just because I compared Garrisons to Island Sanctuary. The point of the post was that Garrisons aka WoW scuffed version of player housing have it's equivalent to the market board, bank, mount stable, and glamour dresser, etc. So I was ASKING if anybody hoped we got these for our island sanctuary, and other features of convenience like Garrisons, all of the resources, everything would be there and we'll never have to leave when not in dungeons, ques, etc.

So, FC bank, glamour dresser, market board, Chocobo stable, retainer bell, aesthetician, etc.

Yet, you're all up in arms over things that are irrelevant to my initial post and the point of it. Who cares if it's "NoT LiKe GaRrISoNs!", that literally has nothing to do with the post. The point was, does anybody hope these things get added to IS, nothing more.

(Frustrated because my post was apparently featured on Zepla's stream and people were being rude)

So far I am loving IS because it reminds me of Garrisons, who cares if it doesn't remind you of Garrisons, it does to me. And I wouldn't want IS to become a throwaway feature just so wealthier players can lavish in their player housing. I want a reason to keep on coming back.

I dunno what you're talking about. I've been answering your question from the start and I'm sure others have as well.

IS is not meant to be a one-stop-spot like garrison. It never will be. (I don't even have the context for garrison and frankly I'm tired of hearing about it and WoW. None of it means anything to me because I was never there.)

You're ignoring these points and insisting that all these things get dumped in the island. It's no surprise that people get rude about it.

[TheMightyMollusk]

I feel like you're all being purposely dismissive, difficult and derailing/ignoring the main question just because I compared Garrisons to Island Sanctuary. The point of the post was that Garrisons aka WoW scuffed version of player housing have it's equivalent to the market board, bank, mount stable, and glamour dresser, etc. So I was ASKING if anybody hoped we got these for our island sanctuary, and other features of convenience like Garrisons, all of the resources, everything would be there and we'll never have to leave when not in dungeons, ques, etc.

So, FC bank, glamour dresser, market board, Chocobo stable, retainer bell, aesthetician, etc.

Yet, you're all up in arms over things that are irrelevant to my initial post and the point of it. Who cares if it's "NoT LiKe GaRrISoNs!", that literally has nothing to do with the post. The point was, does anybody hope these things get added to IS, nothing more.

(Frustrated because my post was apparently featured on Zepla's stream and people were being rude)

So far I am loving IS because it reminds me of Garrisons, who cares if it doesn't remind you of Garrisons, it does to me. And I wouldn't want IS to become a throwaway feature just so wealthier players can lavish in their player housing. I want a reason to keep on coming back.

I was there for garrisons. Leaving aside the server problems at launch (which were not garrison exclusive, so I can't blame it on them), I wasn't a fan. It killed engagement with the community by making everyone hide away in their own instance in order to progress their professions; it was dull and lifeless being surrounded by NPCs all the time; most of the followers were either weak and useless or overpowered and unskippable; and the war table passing out raid gear made actually running the raids less impactful. And all of the added conveniences, like bank and auction house access, just meant nobody bothered to leave the garrison, leaving the other hubs lifeless and dead. I didn't enjoy it, and I don't really want to see it again.

And saying you don't want it to be a "throwaway feature" when that's exactly what garrisons became (to the point that even Blizzard poked fun at it, one of the Mag'har orc jokes is a complaint about abandoned garrisons left all over Draenor) is a bit odd.

[MahthildisMMORPG]

I mean people afk in Limsa anyway, what's the difference? Personally, I find the game already quite lonely, so it'll be nice to be lonely in my own personal "one-stop" hub that I can come back to, even if I don't renew my sub after awhile.

[Deveryn]

I mean people afk in Limsa anyway, what's the difference? Personally, I find the game already quite lonely, so it'll be nice to be lonely in my own personal "one-stop" hub that I can come back to, even if I don't renew my sub after awhile.

Limsa was meant for that. Island is not. If you're lonely, go be social. Find some discords related to things you enjoy.

[MahthildisMMORPG]

If you're lonely, go be social.

[Jojoya]

I feel like you're all being purposely dismissive, difficult and derailing/ignoring the main question just because I compared Garrisons to Island Sanctuary. The point of the post was that Garrisons aka WoW scuffed version of player housing have it's equivalent to the market board, bank, mount stable, and glamour dresser, etc. So I was ASKING if anybody hoped we got these for our island sanctuary, and other features of convenience like Garrisons, all of the resources, everything would be there and we'll never have to leave when not in dungeons, ques, etc.

So, FC bank, glamour dresser, market board, Chocobo stable, retainer bell, aesthetician, etc.

Yet, you're all up in arms over things that are irrelevant to my initial post and the point of it. Who cares if it's "NoT LiKe GaRrISoNs!", that literally has nothing to do with the post. The point was, does anybody hope these things get added to IS, nothing more.

(Frustrated because my post was apparently featured on Zepla's stream and people were being rude)

So far I am loving IS because it reminds me of Garrisons, who cares if it doesn't remind you of Garrisons, it does to me. And I wouldn't want IS to become a throwaway feature just so wealthier players can lavish in their player housing. I want a reason to keep on coming back.

Most WoW players didn't enjoy Garrisons so as soon as you say "Garrison", it's going to derail your intent. For many of us, it was the beginning of the end of our interest in the game.

Will SE add those features you mention to Island Sanctuary? Extremely unlikely. Most of them go against what Island Sanctuary is supposed to be (your retreat to get away from everything) though I think it would be amusing if they at least allowed Jandelaine to show up there.

The reason to keep coming back? You enjoy it. They are adding updates to creatures, gathered materials, recipes and rewards in 6.3 though those are supposed to be minor compared to what they have planned for 6.4. If you've been stockpiling cowries you'll get to chose between spending them on the new rewards, or buying DoH/DoL materia to use or sell. If you need a marketboard to make it worth a return trip then it sounds like you really don't enjoy it that much after all.

[MahthildisMMORPG]

I mean, I don't NEED the MB, it's just, it's tiresome constantly paying coin just to go to New Gridania, FC house, then to IS. I love sitting around on the island, so if the MB was there, it'll limit the amount of gil I'll have to spend to do normal things and allow me to relax at my "home". It's easy to relax in one spot when everything is all there. (it's like working from home) Like let's say I was a crafter, for instance, imagine crafting on my beautiful island, and using the MB while still on it?

For example, if the FC house had a glamour dresser, I would never have to constantly go back to New Gridania.

However, if I had to pick three things to add, it'll be a mount stable, or to put my mounts where the other captured creatures are at (missed opportunity), a market board, and an Aetheryte.

[Jojoya]

I mean, I don't NEED the MB, it's just, it's tiresome constantly paying coin just to go to New Gridania, FC house, then to IS. I love sitting around on the island, so if the MB was there, it'll limit the amount of gil I'll have to spend to do normal things and allow me to relax at my "home". It's easy to relax in one spot when everything is all there. (it's like working from home) Like let's say I was a crafter, for instance, imagine crafting on my beautiful island, and using the MB while still on it?

For example, if the FC house had a glamour dresser, I would never have to constantly go back to New Gridania.

However, if I had to pick three things to add, it'll be a mount stable, or to put my mounts where the other captured creatures are at (missed opportunity), a market board, and an Aetheryte.

Do you hunt or do Masked Carnival at all? Buy Aetheryte tickets with Allied/Centurio and use them to pay teleport fees. I haven't paid a teleport fee on this character in a long time.

I'm fairly certain I remember YoshiP mentioning they had something related to mounts planned but not what or when we might expect to see it.

The Aetheryte wouldn't be possible because IS is instanced. The marketboard would also be extremely unlikely. Summoning Bell and Crystal Bell should be technically possible though SE may have reasons for not wanting them there. We already know they had problems with the glamour dresser when they tried to turn it into a furnishing for housing but I wonder if they could get it to work on IS if they gave it a static position.

And I've crafted on my island many times (was a fitting place to make the fountain parts along with other items). I just made sure I brought the materials I'd need with me.

[Deveryn]

Do you hunt or do Masked Carnival at all? Buy Aetheryte tickets with Allied/Centurio and use them to pay teleport fees. I haven't paid a teleport fee on this character in a long time.

I'm fairly certain I remember YoshiP mentioning they had something related to mounts planned but not what or when we might expect to see it.

The Aetheryte wouldn't be possible because IS is instanced. The marketboard would also be extremely unlikely. Summoning Bell and Crystal Bell should be technically possible though SE may have reasons for not wanting them there. We already know they had problems with the glamour dresser when they tried to turn it into a furnishing for housing but I wonder if they could get it to work on IS if they gave it a static position.

And I've crafted on my island many times (was a fitting place to make the fountain parts along with other items). I just made sure I brought the materials I'd need with me.

This person doesn't care about any of this. They want what they want. Anyone saying other wise is being flat out dismissive.

IIRC, the glam dresser caused trouble when multiple people went to use it, so IS would be a bad place for it.