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  1. #461
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    Stanelis's Avatar
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    Irvy Ryath
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 85
    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    It's a theme park. There are different experiences for different people. That they have so many different ways to play is something that draws people in.
    Issue is a MMORPG is supposed to be a coherent whole. Like the new branching dungeon that has decent difficulty is too disconnected from the remainder of the game, hence there is no motivation to actually rise to the challenge.

    See, comments like this are what lose you all credibility. People can debate things like the quality of the EW story, the state of various classes or roles, and so on, but nobody in their right honest mind tries to claim there isn't much to do in FFXIV. If nothing else, the one thing practically anyone can agree on is that there is a huge amount of available side content in FFXIV, from FATEs to Sightseeing to Relics to Gold Saucer (which itself contains about a half-dozen solid activities) to (and the list goes on). Trying to act as if there's little to do in the game just makes you out to be a pointless troll.
    There is a lot to do in FFXIV but also a very large amount of very poor quality content gameplay wise.

    Se needs to understand that its not because they implement some discount version of stuff you can find on other game (like island sanctuary is a discount version of animal crossing) that it will make ppl happy.
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  2. #462
    Player Aword3213's Avatar
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    Eizen Aifread
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    Typhon
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    Monk Lv 100
    I must be living under a rock. Can anyone introduce me that mysterious MMO Overlord that dictates what MMO should be/should not be?
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    Last edited by Aword3213; 12-20-2022 at 07:43 PM.

  3. #463
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    strawberrycake's Avatar
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    Hazakura Sashihai
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    Seraph
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Thats a balance, and (skill) issue tbh. I'm casual PvP'd in crab gear and had zero problems winning and surviving.
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  4. #464
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    Atelier-Bagur's Avatar
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Just want to point out I've leveled crafting on several characters in WoW and have gotten them to the point I could make gear for myself within, oh, about a day or two generally. Good luck doing that as a new player in FF lmao
    This argument literally makes no sense
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  5. #465
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    Graeham's Avatar
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    Graeham Graisse
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by OdinelStarrei View Post
    It didn't used to be like this pre-Shadowbringers, and is probably where my mind cannot reconcile.
    Is not game that is change. Is you. If the vanilla heavenward is releasing tomorrow you would be excite at the fate for the day. And then you realizing shocker truth. Old game is more easy than you remembering. Rotation is more easy than you remembering. Because you have training the game for the many long year. WoW boomer is know this now in the vanilla make.

    You do not miss game from 7 year past. You miss person you were from 7 year past. But you will never being him again he is gone. Live in moment not in past.
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    ~You may defeat us but our principal is in violet. Indivisible.~
    ~God King Solus and the Princess Svelte Lana~

  6. #466
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    Johners's Avatar
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    Johners Butcher
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    Paladin Lv 100
    A good 15+ pages of comments to catch up on... Gaming.
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  7. #467
    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanelis View Post
    Issue is a MMORPG is supposed to be a coherent whole. Like the new branching dungeon that has decent difficulty is too disconnected from the remainder of the game, hence there is no motivation to actually rise to the challenge.
    I don't know what further connection there is to be made. Perhaps you need to look over the story again. Maybe I'm not understanding what you mean by a disconnect.
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    Player R041's Avatar
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    Oidi Grey
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    Marilith
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Graeham View Post
    Is not game that is change. Is you. If the vanilla heavenward is releasing tomorrow you would be excite at the fate for the day. And then you realizing shocker truth. Old game is more easy than you remembering. Rotation is more easy than you remembering. Because you have training the game for the many long year. WoW boomer is know this now in the vanilla make.

    You do not miss game from 7 year past. You miss person you were from 7 year past. But you will never being him again he is gone. Live in moment not in past.
    I got older so that's why all of my utility is gone, the dungeons are all the same, and open world is dead now? Weird.
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  9. #469
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Coeurl
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    I must be living under a rock. Can anyone introduce me that mysterious MMO Overlord that dictates what MMO should be/should not be?
    *drags WoW out of it's cave*
    You are not allowed to rest until you kill the genre off!

    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    I got older so that's why all of my utility is gone, the dungeons are all the same, and open world is dead now? Weird.
    Oh, that's just puberty. Your will start growing cash shops in weird places, don't panic!
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    Last edited by Raoabolic; 12-21-2022 at 02:04 AM.

  10. #470
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johners View Post
    A good 15+ pages of comments to catch up on... Gaming.
    The equivalent of reading the methodology chapter on a thesis.
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